stevomcd – do you mean the 661 race pro (black & blue) knee/shin that you've just got?
Pleased you are happy with them as I've just got some of these to replace the 661 race lites which I could never get to stay in place, meaning they were never actually knee pads. Whacked my knee really badly on 2nd day of a week in Spain and suffered for the rest of the week so decided they needed to be replaced before this years jaunt.
The Race Pro's definitely stay put better in my highly scientific faux-pedal & jump around the house performed yesterday. I had one of those on & a Race lite for comparison, and the race lite began it's slide south almost immediately.
I think the Race Pro is gonna be quite hot, but am willing to put up with that.
Elbow pads are so Fox ones that I barely notice once they are on, but do a decent job & stay put.