I've got HDMI out as well as VGA.
As for firewire - I seem to have it, probably 400 tho.
EDIT:
Even so, not all personal computers utilize the FireWire protocol. Apple includes FireWire on some of its computers, not including the ultra-portable MacBook Air and consumer-branded MacBook. It is included on some HP portables (2540p and 2740p) as well as most Sony VAIOs and Lenovo ThinkPads.
As for firewire - I seem to have it, probably 400 tho.
Unpowered too probably 
I do love a Mac vs PC thread, endless fun.
Emphasis on the endless. 3 pages FFS.
I'm happy to debate the pros and cons, but as long as it's sensible. Mindless fanboi-ism gets my goat.
just priced up a custom sony vaio to a similar spec as a macbookpro 13 it came out at £1700!
HP were a bit cheaper and about the same price as the mac.
neither had FW800 though and no way of telling if the 400 was powered or not.
not much use to me so i'll stick with a mac.
not much use to me so i'll stick with a mac.
It's not like we are trying to make you change!
I found PCs to be vastly cheaper for what I wanted when I was shopping, counter to your experience.
You're such a mindless PC 'fanboi' molgrips. 
I would be if I were trying to persuade you all that PCs were better!
It's not like we are trying to make you change!I found PCs to be vastly cheaper for what I wanted when I was shopping, counter to your experience.
but it proves the point that for some things a mac is a good choice.
using a digital back shooting tethered is my example.
if i had an office full of people doing office stuff they would be using bargain basement pc's.
i did contemplate a P.C. workstation for photoshop/image processing use only but some of the software i use isn't available and the cost wasn't much different.
I would be if I were trying to persuade you all that PCs were better!
Well you were giving it a good go earlier.....
I was trying to persuade you that they were cheaper in many cases, and had more available software. Regardless of whether or not it was software you personally were interested in.
but it proves the point that for some things a mac is a good choice
Never argued otherwise.
Mindless fanboi-ism gets my goat.
But there hasn't been much, if any of that. Lots of nice reasoned points though...
The best thing about PCs? At a year old you can pick them up for absolute BOBBINS becasue of the hideous deppreciation!
For comparison of high end stuff ... well I have chosen them quickly but the amount can be reduced I guess by another £300 if you choose the components properly. i.e. brand names etc.
All VAT including delivery.
1)Crucial RealSSD C300 256GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CTFDDAC256MAG-1G1)£487.61
2) Intel Core i7 960 3.2GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail Intel Core i7 960 3.2GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail £449.99
3)Gainward GeForce GTX 480 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card Gainward GeForce GTX 480 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £366.59
3) Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard £299.99
4)Iiyama ProLite B2712HDS 27" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £274.99
5) Corsair Dominator GT 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 16000C8 2000MHz Triple Channel Kit (CMT6GX3M3A2000C8) £239.99
6)Corsair HX 1000W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply (CMPSU-1000HXUK) £184.99
7) Microsoft Windows 7 Professional - Retail (Full Version)(FQC-00133) £163.99
8. (water cool) Corsair Hydro H70 High Performance CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3)£86.99
9) Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000528AS)£52.99
10) Antec 300 Three Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black £46.99
11) Samsung SH-B083L/RSBP 8x BluRay ROM / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (Retail) £43.99
Total : £2,722.72
Labour: 1 to 2 hours.
With near to the above spec = iMac £2,448.99 incl. VAT If iMac has the above specs it will cost more.
At a year old you can pick them up for absolute BOBBINS becasue of the hideous deppreciation!
I get offered/given stuff free. I mostly turn it down, 'cos I simply have no need for it. PC stuff is obsolete very quickly. Worth pulling out stuff lie RAM from older machines though, 'cos there's always some geek wanting some for a 'retro build'...
Such a waste really. At least Macs tend to carry on until they die.
4)Iiyama ProLite B2712HDS 27" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £274.99
As I said earlier, that's nowhere near as good as an iMac's screen, which is an LED monitor. The equivalent would probably be nearer £1000. Adding £725.01 to your price, roughly!
Hmm, the iMac seems better value all the time!
I'd sell Molgrips' kidneys for that!
Never argued otherwise.
So what exactly have you been wittering on about? 
As I said earlier, that's nowhere near as good as an iMac's screen, which is an LED monitor. The equivalent would probably be nearer £1000.
Just trying to say that there are good and bad points to both, rather than one type being the most fabulous wonderous amazing wonder-thing that we must all follow (which is how most Mac users come over).
Just a tip - saying 'that wouldn't have happened with a Mac' and smirking every time anyone has an IT problem doens't help, it just really annoys people. So button it next time
27"? All I can find are 24" ones that cost over £1000!
My point was that an equivalent quality screen will add a big chunk to the cost of any build.
Nothing will match the iMac's design. Nothing.
Elfinsafety - Member"4)Iiyama ProLite B2712HDS 27" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £274.99"
As I said earlier, that's nowhere near as good as an iMac's screen, which is an LED monitor. The equivalent would probably be nearer £1000. Adding £725.01 to your price, roughly!
Hmm, the iMac seems better value all the time!
OOOOOOHHHHHH!
Yes, the screen is nice but I guess it's up to the individual as some might not even notice that at all. Alternatively, just plug it into normal plasma/LCD TV ... LOL! That will learn you.
p/s: I like Apple but am not keen on giving up total control if I encounter hardware problem or when I need to upgrade in future. I only need to upgrade perhaps ... the CPU, Mobo & RAM that's all. Not the entire thing.
Nothing will match the iMac's design. Nothing.
Statements like that are just stupid.
There's tons of hardware out there that is amazingly well engineered, complex, elegant, and amazing in detail beyond anything normal people would ever understand (for Mac, PC, anything) and you work yourself up over the box and the desktop.
Pah.
I've gone into shops and ooed at Macs, then I play with it for a while and realise it's just a desktop computer.
+1 for Chewkw - I've not spent more than a few hundred on my desktop PC at any one time since I bought my first one in 1998 Upgrades and upgrades
i like this one. it blends in with modern furniture so well you don't realise it's a computer
Lol
That will learn you.
Eh? 
Statements like that are just stupid.
But true!
It's not just the aesthetics, it's stuff like the DVD slot, rather than a pop-out flimsy plastic tray, no nasty buttons/bright lights on the front of it, neat cabling all tucked away round the back, half-decent speakers, etc.
i like this one. it blends in with modern furniture so well you don't realise it's a computer
It's not just the aesthetics, it's stuff like the DVD slot, rather than a pop-out flimsy plastic tray, no nasty buttons/bright lights on the front of it, neat cabling all tucked away round the back, half-decent speakers, etc.
When talking about design, you mean the exterior design. Which is fair enough. They look nice.
If you think that's worth the money then ok (joke)
I'm bored of this thread 
Yeah, so was I so I went for a nice swim.
Well I'm bored of fanbois
So bored you decided to open a thread about Macs and then **** on endlessly about how they are over-rated?
Well it's on it's way! Might even get it tomorrow
iMacs are the 29er singlespeed of the computing world
Wait, you're a Mac fan and I'M somehow the stuck record.. right
It's on its way you say? When, were? I might plan a hijack and torch the van in protest.
OMG It's here! Are you excited molgrips? Are you????!!!!
I trust you're going to write up a blog post of the Unboxing, with photos and videos?
I want to see pics of why it's so damn brilliant, please
As I said earlier, that's nowhere near as good as an iMac's screen, which is an LED monitor
One of the rich kids at school had a LED watch when they came out, but you had to go under a table to read the display properly. I guess they've sorted that now?
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