Photos and video released of the BUK launcher allegedly in the area the missile was fired from.
Along with photo's of the BUK launcher when it was allegedly seized from the Ukranian base that was taken, and an interfax press release from June 30th where Ukranian officials confirmed a BUK launcher was at the base, but claimed it was 'not operational' (no definition of that, so it could easily have been engine/mechanical issues)
Photos and video of what could be the BUK launcher on the back of a low loader being hastily moved back to Russia.
Well, there are numerous photo's of one moving round on a civilian truck, seemingly both before and after the shootdown, we have no confirmation of where the video was taken, other than a claim that it was near the Russian border.
Blocking of anyone trying to get to the wreckage and bodies.
One minute they've being criticised for not securing the area, the next criticised for not letting people near it - it seems that the Malaysian investigation team are still sitting in Kiev, waiting for the Ukranian govt. to give them clearance to go to the area.
Black boxes removed and location unknown.
Apparently in Donetsk, where the separatist administration have said they are waiting to give them to international investigators, but haven't met them yet (One can imagine a significant level of to and fro with the Ukranian government saying they have to go through them as they are the legitimate government for the area, and the rebels saying no they are not, and the international teams must approach them directly, the sort of endless round in circles officious posturing by both sides that marks the whole region)
Looting of wreckage.
That would never happen here, would it? Although record shows us there were several arrests for looting after Lockerbie.
Bodies being left, some being moved to a railway carriage.
Just how quickly can you gear up a recovery operation for that many bodies? let alone in what is effectively a war zone. What facilities would you expect to have in place to receive that many bodies ? IIRC in lockerbie they used the local ice rink as a temporary morgue, in the middle of nowhere rural Ukraine, a refrigerated train doesn't seem an unreasonable solution.
The vice video (and I cant stress enough how good the vice dispatches have been regards this whole conflict) seems to show local people acting with a fair bit of compassion and respect, in tragic and difficult circumstances
Some wreckage being moved, ruining any investigation.
As I understand it, they've been moving wreckage to look for bodies. Again we need to look at this in the light of being a war zone, if you watch the Vice video's you'll see some desperate stories of civilians being killed by Ukranian artillery (and no doubt rebels the too) - there's a lot of tragedy in that part of the world at the moment.
UN voting today on what to do.
Would be good if they forced a ceasefire between the Ukranians and Rebels, for the good of everyone in the region.
There should be a system already in place for a plane crash or similar even in a war zone or disaster zone. The UN should already be there and have the site secured and an investigation underway, not only as it involves an incident involving victims from UN members over a UN country that is not able to deal with it themselves due to war but as the people responsible are also members of the UN.]
Agreed, but what country wants to put their troops or investigators in the middle of a war zone?