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  • grum
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    See this (and the comments) for some sickening ‘poppy fascism’, the irony of which seems to be lost on the morons posting.

    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=625136347524388&id=209224299115597&set=a.211785712192789.51018.209224299115597&source=48&ref=m_notif&notif_t=share_reply&__user=603351473

    Don’t you think it’s a bit weird that you can be prosecuted for burning a poppy in the first place? Ignorant and offensive it may be, but I tend to feel that the millions who are remembered today died to give us the freedom to do it.

    Yup.

    bigyinn
    Member

    I dont usually wear a poppy. Still donate, just don’t like wearing things.
    I still stood at the war memorial yesterday for the 2 minute silence with tears in my eyes.
    I imagine most of those hateful comments wouldn’t have been made, had she been white. Racist bigots, the lot of them!

    The jist of which is there was a lot more to the situation than is presented on this short poster.

    I refuse this to be true. You are a troll and I claim my £5!

    Shibboleth
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    My mum’s Victorian long-cased wall clock bonged 11 times yesterday morning and then stopped dead. The spring is half-wound and it’s run flawlessly for many years and it stopped dead at 11am on Remembrance Sunday.

    Don’t you think that’s a bit weird? 😯

    bigyinn
    Member

    pmj, you should get yourself on there and confirm how awful it is (or anyone else for that matter)!
    ALL New Spotted: Isle of Wight

    bigyinn
    Member

    Shibboleth – Member

    My mum’s Victorian long-cased wall clock bonged 11 times yesterday morning and then stopped dead. The spring is half-wound and it’s run flawlessly for many years and it stopped dead at 11am on Remembrance Sunday.

    Don’t you think that’s a bit weird?
    Muslamic ray guns?

    Shibboleth
    Member

    Maybe the European Defense Mechanism failed…

    wrecker
    Member

    Don’t you think it’s a bit weird that you can be prosecuted for burning a poppy in the first place? Ignorant and offensive it may be, but I tend to feel that the millions who are remembered today died to give us the freedom to do it.

    (my bold) isn’t that the point?
    I don’t think there’s any law about burning the quran, but it’s still a disgusting and offensive thing to do. The freedom given to us (all) should go hand in hand with a bit of respect.

    Premier Icon zilog6128
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    I don’t think there’s any law about burning the quran, but it’s still a disgusting and offensive thing to do for a minority of the UK population.

    FTFY

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    You don’t need to be religious to be disgusted by an attack on that religion! I’d say the majority of the population would agree that burning a bible or a qu’ran in order to offend people is wrong. Being a dick to people is generally frowned upon.

    Premier Icon zilog6128
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    Well, I wouldn’t burn either of those things personally but it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if anyone else did. Agree that being a dick is bad though. The future dudes in Bill & Ted had it right.

    This.

    You don’t need to be religious to be disgusted by an attack on that religion! I’d say the majority of the population would agree that burning a bible or a qu’ran in order to offend people is wrong. Being a dick to people is generally frowned upon.

    And this.

    Well, I wouldn’t burn either of those things personally but it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if anyone else did. Agree that being a dick is bad though. The future dudes in Bill & Ted had it right.

    But most of all, this.

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7532GXPnO8[/video]

    Premier Icon Flaperon
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    I don’t think there’s any law about burning the quran, but it’s still a disgusting and offensive thing to do.

    If we banned everything that someone, somewhere, found offensive, we wouldn’t be able to do anything at all.

    Shibboleth
    Member

    Banning things offends me. I think we should put a stop to it.

    winston_dog
    Member

    That Facebook page is incredible. Some bitter bigots on there!

    Loving the spelling of “Natzi” from one moron though!

    wrecker
    Member

    If we banned everything that someone, somewhere, found offensive, we wouldn’t be able to do anything at all.

    You’re completely right, but burning stuff which is held dear by lots of people isn’t a brilliant idea, be it a book or a little paper flower.
    I suppose that question is; should the law be used against those who do it anyway?

    Premier Icon Lifer
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    Premier Icon epicyclo
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    The perpetrators unwittingly honoured the considerable number of Muslims who died in the war fighting for the British cause.

    The poppy should be as relevant to British Muslims as it is to other British people.

    Premier Icon flange
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    The fact is, there are plenty of stupid ignorant people out there that will victimize and attack those of a different background/skin colour/religious belief just because they’re different. Its not limited to skinhead whites attacking Mosques either, I know a few Indian people who have an abject hatred for Pakistanis.

    All this Quran burning/poppy defacing is all pretty pathetic. Why don’t they just turn round and start insulting each others mothers? As for setting up facebook groups…man alive.

    On the flip side, everyone has an entitlement to free speech and not be persecuted for their views – surely that’s part of what remembrance Sunday is all about. However people also have the right to not be viciously attacked based solely on their religious views or colour of their skin.

    The FB post is racist.

    konabunny
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    everyone has an entitlement to free speech and not be persecuted for their views – surely that’s part of what remembrance Sunday is all about.

    Is that what Remembrance Sunday stands for?

    I suppose that question is; should the law be used against those who do it anyway?

    What, like bankers and embezzling money? Or MPs and tax fraud?

    The perpetrators unwittingly honoured the considerable number of Muslims who died in the war fighting for the British cause.

    The poppy should be as relevant to British Muslims as it is to other British people.

    This. My understanding is that the poppy represents those that have fallen while serving in or with the British military. This includes members of different faiths and those with alternate beliefs, which ultimately is irrelevant – all should be remembered for their sacrifice; it has allowed us to be able to talk freely about the rights and wrongs of it today.

    Premier Icon ton
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    i think it is offensive rather than racist.

    ernielynch and darcy will be along shortly, to tell me that i am racist for saying this ^……… 😉

    crankboy
    Member

    Gosh Grum’s link to the facebook page makes me tot want to wear a poppy this year . Unlike the fat bloke at the cafe in Cawthorn Park yesterday, sporting a poppy, who sat down and chatted to his dog all through the two minute silence that they held.

    Premier Icon flange
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    Is that what Remembrance Sunday stands for?

    Pendant yeah?

    If someone has a view on a certain religion, whether its based on fact or not, it’s entirely up to them. If they take actions based on those points of view that affect others negatively – or force those points of view onto others, then that in my opinion is wrong and should be stopped. Spreading hate on Facebook/twitter falls into the latter in my opinion.

    I wouldn’t beat up someone or deface their property because they hold racist views. I wouldn’t expect said racist to damage someone else’s property because they have a different background or skin colour.

    konabunny
    Member

    Not really pendantic if it goes to the heart of the issue!

    edlong
    Member

    I don’t think there’s any law about burning the quran, but it’s still a disgusting and offensive thing to do for a minority of the UK population.
    FTFY

    While I agree with your FTFY, I doubt it leads me to the same conclusion. Rights of minorities do require greater protection, because they are more vulnerable.

    yunki
    Member

    saw this on a friends facebook status earlier which made me chuckle..

    How bout we get with the times and wear an opium poppy for all our troops guarding heroin fields for the corporate military mafia!

    and this prat’s behaviour is far more offensive than any lame FB anti-islam propaganda

    wrecker
    Member

    Rights of minorities do require greater protection, because they are more vulnerable.

    Treat everyone equally and we’ll all get along just fine.

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