Exactly. It wouldn't matter if it was EU law or our own home grown regulations, the little Hitlers will still make our lives a misery.
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Is someone able to give me a balanced view of Britain being part of the EU?
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all this talk of Brussels being undemocratic isn't strictly true, Council of ministers, we vote for the governments who appoint a representative, European Parliament, we vote for them as well.
There is a disconnect but it is also of our making, we need to understand how to make europe work, Wales has done well out of EU money, something that gets forgotten.
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BTW as you brought it up, the civil servants who allowed the fishing quotas, foreign fishing vessel registration etc. were/are not jobsworths - they were/are incompetent idiots!
Disagree, they allowed it and came down massively on any UK vessel that overfished but refused to police the foreign ones. It was a classic case of bloody minded jobsworthism.Posted 1 year ago # -
Wow toys you are the most pro european here anti - british but pro the european way. That is a niche position on the european question you have there.
Not sure it counts as a balanced view though
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I disagree, Im proud to be English, I'm not anti british, I'm anti jobsworth. I cry when England lose the rugby (I cry when they win too) but I'm not keen on our system. I have lots of experience of the EU and it has all been positive from the UK perspective. BTW my opinion on the civil service comes partly from my own experience but mostly from a senior civil servant who I once worked alongside. He was a very pragmatic, reasonable man waging a war against concrete headed, power crazed, jobsworth scum that are hell bent on ruining things for every one. I sugegst you read what I have to say instead of making judgment just because I promote a pro european stance. You can be pro british and pro european you know, they are not mutually exclusive.
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And its balanced, I'm trying to say that what comes from europe is frequently seen as bad because of the way the new eu regulations get enforced (or used as an excuse) in this country.
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Well withtout the EU I would have never been to the UK and on here
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^^^^^ do you need any more reasons ?
Humour fail by one of us,toys, you can decide which one.Posted 1 year ago # -
Doh sorry..
Humour fail by one of us,toys, you can decide which one.Posted 1 year ago # -
Leaving would be a bit like sending us back to the Stone Age.
LOL ! nothing quite like being over dramatic to frighten the living daylights out of people who dare to even question the value of EU membership !
I also liked the claim that the EU has played a "huge role" in preventing wars for the first time in 2000 years !
Yep, those pesky Germans would be invading their neighbours and up to all sorts if wasn't for EU directives !
LOL !
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Norway, Switzerland and any other non eu country in Europe have the benefit of having to comply with much of European law without being able to influence it.
That is the real choice we have.
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I'm still no clearer.
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Be a colony of EU ...
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I'm still no clearer.
As far as I can tell, the benefits are:-We have a minority say in European Law Legislation.
Free trade within the EU helps UK exports to other EU countries
Cheaper imports (China, Japan etc. aren't important anymore!)
Juan gets to visitNegatives
STW concensus says none (and it is our fault if things haven't panned out in the UK's favour eg. fishing, farming!)I feel much happier now that has been cleared up
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