So looks like being unvieled on the 4th and on sale by middle of oct. Anyone getting one?

I sit here out of contract and iphoneless in preparation. The wait is hard…

Not unless I ‘accidentally’ break my 3GS and work replaces it with a 5, I’m guessing there’s still plenty of 4’s in warranty stock though 🙁

Are they going to put Flash on it?

Hope not.

I will probably get one when then come along. And I bloody hope they don’t put flash on it!

Nice to see the phone recycle sites will take £300 for my 15 month old iphone 4! Amazing residual value.

They won’t put flash on it. Too much loss-of-face aside from all the technical reasons not to.

Flash is my deal-breaker. I hope that’s why it’s been delayed.

Unless Samsung win their tit-for-tat court case in which case you could be waiting for a while…

Flash is my deal-breaker. I hope that’s why it’s been delayed.

They won’t put Flash on it.

Even the new Windows 8 doesn’t support flash on tablets/phones.

I’m due an upgrace so will be looking at them with interest and as yet I’ve to find a time I’ve needed to use Flash on my iPhone.

Tbh when I briefly had a galaxy s2, I found flash just slowed down what was otherwise a superb browsing experience.

I hope it is released in October as my contract finishes in November and I quite fancy a cheap iPhone 4.

want one!

I find flash works fine on my HTC Desire S though I did manage ok without it on my previous iPhone. It is quite useful actually being able to run full (eg non-mobile) sites at times though as the mobile versions often aren’t great and it’s suprising just how much flash there does seem to be.

I can’t believe they’re not putting Flash on it 🙁

Like I said, loss of face would mean that they won’t do it.

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

Besides, the volume of the iPhone market means that any serious website has to cater for them meaning that there’s a flash-free version.

Got an iPhone 4 and happy with it. will keep it till my contract runs out in a year then look to see whats about, maybe a 6 if they’re out by then

I can’t believe they’re not putting Flash on it

Why? In 2.5 years of iPhone usage, I can’t think of one time when it’s been a problem

I won’t be getting a 5. My 32gb 4 is perfect right now, and I’ve got 6 months contract to run. I’ll wait for the IP6 🙂

Darcy, you can just find me here instead! 😉

dd: is there a particular site you want Flash for?

If it is just for video then most good sites already offer HTML5 video instead, which also has the advantage that it takes less time to download and uses less of your data allowance.

Most other Flash video can be played by using the Skyfire browser, which converts Flash video to HTML5 on the fly.

But if it is for something more complicated (i.e. Flash games or apps) then you’re pretty much stuck and you’d have to go for a ‘droid.

It’s a massive disappointment. 🙂

is it definitely an iphone 5 that is being released, and not a 4 (S) or evne new software??

where did you read this, or is it just rumours?

be prepared for a 4S (iPhone 4 look-a-likey) 🙁

many flash sites are designed for ‘mouseovers’ and the like – just can’t work with touchscreens. flash is dying fast anyway. The only thing you miss is video clips on BBC news and the like – daft way do deliver video anyway.

I can’t believe they’re not putting Flash on it

I can’t believe anyone would think they would. Apple and Adobe are most categorically not sitting in a tree.

Can’t say as I’d miss it, personally. I like my websites to stand still when I’m trying to read them.

is it definitely an iphone 5 that is being released, and not a 4 (S) or evne new software??

New phone is definite.
But no one is sure if it will be an iPhone 5, a “4S” or possibly both.

New software is also definite. iOS 5 is already available to developers and the features are well known.
http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/features.html

Will iOS6 have Flash do we think?

No, no I don’t think it will. 🙄

flash is on the way out … if its not been on the previous 4 versions of the iphone, multiple ipods and 2 ipads, then its never going to be ( not officially anyway ) …

personally, I cant stand flash, hate it. hate the websites that are completely written them, just always been something i’ve never liked. HTML5 is the future.

As for the iphone5 … macrumors show some good pictures of new case designs which show it being a wedge shape … dont think I would like that. I like the current iphone4 shape and feel … just the screen a little small.

( I actually have a Galaxy S2 for the bigger screen, but still like the oiphone )

Will iOS6 have Flash do we think?

By the time iOS6 comes out Flash will be ancient history.

Not getting an iPhone5 (no money and my 3gs still works) but I’m looking forward to iOS5, mainly for full mirroring the iPad2 to AppleTV

DD stop trolling 😉

Ok clubber 🙂

Apple and Adobe are most categorically not sitting in a tree.

Which is weird because one of the main reasons most have for choosing a mac rather than PC is the graphics type work and the adobe software is still the choice on a mac for most.

Still rather confused by the flash thing – what hae I’ve been missing out on without it? I don’t game al all and use my phone for very limited amounts of complex surfing so maybe it’s my use that means I’ve never felt it a problem.

I’m still using a iphone 3g and do find it a bit slow but prefer it as a thing in my pocket to wife’s b’berry or friend’s android devices so seriously thinking of either buying a 5 direct from apple or getting a new contract phone.

It will be interesting to see how much better it is than the existing iphone4 and if the differences are small I’d be tempted to get a 4 instead and saving some cash.

Still got a year left on my contract so will be waiting for the iPhone 6 – probably.

If I can get £300 for my iPhone 4 then who knows.

Flash is my deal-breaker. I hope that’s why it’s been delayed.

Jesus-phone?

I’d only want one to learn the inner-workings of it, not to actually use.

Lost me Jimmers.

Jesus-phone?

Genius!

Been reading El Reg too much….

Im not sure flash is “dead” as such. It stil has lots of uses within the web industry. It is a good thing for website design specifically that the iphone has been such a success as without it the move towards html5 /css3 would be much slower.

It is all about using the right tool for the job, e.g. you would struggle to make something as interactive as the club penguin site without flash.

I am very, very happy the splash page / intro movie is dying out and that designers generally are thinking a little more about building their websites for their target market.