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  • If a policeman stops me on my bike without justification…
  • easygirl
    Full Member

    think yoursel lucky you werent giving someone a backy……bigg trouble

    On **(..SPECIFY DATE..) at **(..SPECIFY TOWNSHIP..) on a road, namely **(..SPECIFY ROAD AND LOCATION..), were one of

    (A)_[two]_
    (B)_[two or more]_

    persons carried on a bicycle which was not constructed or adapted to carry more than one person.

    yunki
    Free Member

    bum him

    easygirl
    Full Member

    and its not only us coppers you have to stop for, even the lowly PCSO can require you to stop and give you a telling off……

    On **(..SPECIFY DATE..) at **(..SPECIFY TOWNSHIP..), being a person

    (A)_[riding]_
    (B)_[propelling]_

    a pedal cycle, neglected or refused to stop for the purposes of a road check under section 4 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, when directed to do so by a designated community support officer engaged in the regulation of traffic in a road, namely **(..SPECIFY ROAD AND LOCATION..)

    easygirl
    Full Member

    christ theres another 7 pages of cycling related offences to get through yet, but there are prisoners coming in so ill have to leave it!!

    easygirl
    Full Member

    one more then, hope you had your rear reflector fitted……

    Schedule 18, Part I of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 provides requirements in relation to the number of obligatoryrear retro reflectors on vehicles.

    1. NUMBER.

    1(a) Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (b) or (c).
    Number of lamps required: Two.

    1(b) A solo motor bicycle, a pedal cycle with less than four wheels and with or without a sidecar, a trailer drawn by a pedal cycle, a trailer the overall width of which does not exceed 800 mm drawn by a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination, an invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 4 mph and a vehicle drawn or propelled by hand.
    Number of lamps required: One.

    dangerousbeans
    Free Member

    So basically there's shedloads of petty little laws that can be used against you when out on a bike – it must be so dangerous for the general public if a bike is lacking pedal reflectors.

    Jamie
    Free Member

    Section 29 of the Road Traffic Act 1988

    ….yeah but was matey on a 29er?

    *gets coat*

    samuri
    Free Member

    can easygirl be banned please. 😉

    easygirl
    Full Member

    the size of wheel is irrelevant in the eyes of the law !

    easygirl
    Full Member

    laws are only petty to the people comitting them
    they are useful tools to law enforcement agencies for hacking trainee solicitors off 😀

    Del
    Full Member

    If someone wants to be petty then petty the **** out of them.

    LOL!

    hilldodger
    Free Member

    Loving the collective 'keyboard rebellion' against the forces of evil 😆
    Lets face it – easiest, quickest response is to be civil/polite and be on your way, twatting about on the road on a bike isn't really that clever and neither is being a 'cheeky schoolboy' to a Police Officer who catches you out 🙄

    davidrussell
    Free Member

    how hard is it to bunnyhop a fakenger fixie anyway?

    fontmoss
    Free Member

    have we established how this fine officer of the law 'caught out' the OP?

    easygirl surely upholding the law is more to do with using discretion and applying it appropriately rather than blindly following it to the letter?
    And I would argue that 'having a rant' has no place whatsover if you choose to work in the public sector

    coffeeking
    Free Member

    Ah yess fontmoss – the discretion clause – makes no sense to book people for breaking the law if you can choose not to… 🙂 Personally I'd just ignore them if they called after me (can't claim you definitely heard them, you might be deaf) but if they stepped out in front I'd just point out that bunnyhopping isn't either dangerous, careless or a problem to anyone else. But I would be aware that they could and probably would find a reason to book me!

    philfive
    Free Member

    ban easygirl please 😀 i dont have lights as i dont ride at night and i have no reflectors as i took them all off…… will i go to prison and become bubba's wife?

    tracknicko
    Free Member

    once got screamed at by the po po's out of their window as they drove along. shouting something unintelligible. got closer and he was shouting.

    'oi you lot, ride ON the pavement'

    baffling.

    rkk01
    Free Member

    can easygirl be banned please.

    Too useful a resource for that…

    It seems to me that any mountain bike (or any serious road, CX, specialist sports oriented non commute / supermarket bike) is vulnerable to these elements of the law. They are too sports specific.

    None of my bikes have a bell fitted – my understanding is that new bikes have to be supplied with one (and that, therefore, cannot apply to frame only build ups), but there is no legal requirement to have one fitted thereafter??

    Regarding reflectors – I don't think I have ever had a front reflector on an mtb, and I gave up on rear reflectors on mtbs about 15 years ago as the vibration always causes the plastic mountings to fail.

    Likewise with pedal reflectors – I use eggies / candies or DMR flat pedals. No reflectors on any of them – although my clipless shoes do have Scotchbrite on the heel cup.

    I do agree with the be polite and politely enquire as to the reason for being stopped and questioned though.

    easygirl
    Full Member

    oh god, not again, the posts were tongue in cheek for gods sake 🙂

    easygirl
    Full Member

    i dont have reflectors on my bike for the record
    mind you , if a bobby stopped me and advised me re my manner of cycling on a road i would not consider telling him to **** off, neither would i get on a forum , id say "Thanks", and ride off muttering under my breath.

    fontmoss
    Free Member

    posts were tongue in cheek for gods sake

    maybe the replies are too 😉

    BigAirNig
    Free Member

    would simply have asked how what you did was breaking what law ….. have him explain what you have been stopped for, so you are no longer guessing…….

    And in your example – ask what he would have rather you had done instead – since going through the pothole could have caused you to get a puncture, lose control and get run over (which is what you could explain you were wishing to avoid) … or some other mis-hap that you managed to safely avoid ….. 'safely' as evidenced by the fact that you did it and no-one else got bothered/injured etc etc.

    sv
    Full Member

    What training do the plod have for inspecting bikes?

    nobtwidler
    Free Member

    Didn't you just tell him to "go and catch some proper criminals!"

    willard
    Full Member

    Do you seriously have to have all those reflectors?

    I know it's petty, but I cannot remember the last time I actually had reflectors on my bike, or any bike that I own, simply because the dam things keep falling off, getting in the way, or are just shite. I don't have a bell either because having a bell on a mountain bike would be absolutely stoopid.

    Who the hell thinks up these things?

    Easygirl, can you change these things? Make it o…

    Singlespeed_Shep
    Free Member

    I'd just get on with my day and forget about it.

    Big-Dave
    Free Member

    I don't have a bell either because having a bell on a mountain bike would be absolutely stoopid.

    I've got a bell on every one of my bikes. Comes in very handy, especially in busy urban areas. Usually gets a smile from walkers on bridlepaths as well.

    BigDummy
    Free Member

    He's a police-person. That means he can do what he wants. Unless you're very well armed or the Queen, just smile sweetly, call him "Sir" and don't make any sudden movements.

    I can't say I much like the idea of people doing whipped bunnyhops over the potholes if they're ahead of me on the road, if I'm totally honest. 🙂

    coffeeking
    Free Member

    once got screamed at by the po po's out of their window as they drove along. shouting something unintelligible. got closer and he was shouting.

    'oi you lot, ride ON the pavement'

    baffling.

    By your use of the "po po's" I would guess you're 5 and he was worried for your safety ? 😆

    Curly68
    Free Member

    My son and I were coasting down a pedestianised bit of road last summer and was called out to stop by a PCSO. I carried on but had to stop up the road for my son to catch up. The PCSO swung in front of me all red in the face and wanted to give me a ticket for not stopping and riding in the pedestrianised area. I politely told him that the two coppers I passed on the way down didn't worry about it. He didn't like that and put his book away and rode off!
    Now I see him riding his shiny new bike around my estate, on the footpath! One rule for one?

    _tom_
    Free Member

    Can't say I've ever had trouble with the police even when riding past them at night with no lights/reflectors on my bmx (no brakes at the time either), hopping from curb to curb and such. I like to think they have more important things to worry about!

    If they're on foot it should be easy to get away if shouted at anyway 😆

    zokes
    Free Member

    It does appear with so much time on their hands that all other crimes must be a thing of the past though. Can you request that a police officer arrests themselves for wasting police time?

    easygirl
    Full Member

    you could ask a police officer to arrest himself for wasting police time, i know what theanswer would be

    TheDoog
    Free Member

    I ride on a towpath (only to work i hasten to add) i've encountered bigger A-holes on there than anywhere else. Passed a jogger once, stopped further along to take a phone call to be passed by the jogger ranting and raving about not warning him i was passing. To which i replied "i shouted a warning but you've got headphones stuck in your ears and i dont do telepathy" Another occasion i was whacked across the knuckles by an old boy with a walking stick (thankfully i had my carbon knuckled gloves on) for not using the towpath for its intended purpose, i told him that neither was he cos he wasn't a horse pulling a barge, he just mumbled and shuffled away. Fishermen on the the other hand have always been ok with me, even the ones with those carbon rods that seem to be longer than the canal is wide for some odd reason, but i digress……

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