this one ? seems a good deal and I do like their bib shorts and 3/4’s

would likely be used as a winter mid layer under a shell on wet rides

nice, comfortable. pockets are crap.

thanks, won’t be using as outer if on road, so don’t need pockets (Evoc pack when offroad)

Ordered one, will see how it looks, cheers

I use a short sleeve one on the road, nice and comfy. I have no issues with the pockets.

thanks, how does it size up ? I have the bibs in L/XL, so was reckoning same for top, as think the S/M might be too small – 42 chest, 34 waist. 5ft 10.5. ??

Yes, as above pockets are close to useless – material just endlessly stretches.

Snug fit 🙂

^^ thanks, L/XL ordered so hopefully fits 🙂 cheers

I’ve had a short sleeve one for ages – it’s good, even the pockets.

So I bought a long sleeve one, and it’s also good, but the pockets are a completely different, much worse, design.

sounding hopeful, with only possible negative being pockets (which I won’t be using !) – thanks all 🙂

Same as longmover, no issues at all…