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Down slope, grass - 2m descent at ~20-30 degrees from horizontal (with a 10m flatish leadup), terminated by a coping stone with a slight dip before it (3-4 inches, about wheel sized), then followed by a 4ft vertical drop to concrete.

I've been considering hitting it at full belt and pre-jumping the coping stone but that feels kinda rushed and like I'm going to land nose first if I cock it up and clip the back wheel, or even if I miss it as I'll struggle to lift the 30 degrees out of the slope.

Thoughts?


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:26 pm
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bouncy castle needed at termination of maneouvre


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:29 pm
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dont bother


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:29 pm
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With a sledgehammer.


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:31 pm
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yunki is making the most sense so far 🙂 if it had a flat launch site or no coping stone I'd be happy enough, but the stone gets me psychologically. It's the first obstacle out of my door on my local ride and I'm sick of pootling past it on the concrete path!


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:38 pm
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Manual off the top.


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:39 pm
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whats the worst that could happen?


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:40 pm
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I'd considered manualling off the top but I think the rear would hook up on the dip before the stone, leaving me pivoting nicely about that point. Maybe you're right though, with enough momentum.

rs - wouldn't like to do this to myself!
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Posted : 13/07/2010 11:44 pm
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Pictures?


 
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Manual off the top.

What that man said. Manual through the dip before the coping and then suck up the drop, race stylee. Making it a little smaller and hopefully stoping the bike bucking you over the front. Hitting things with pace too seems to mean they don't take so long to get through and go smoother than you thought, look bigger/further ahead.


 
Posted : 13/07/2010 11:47 pm
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No current picture, but this is a side profile, approx to scale, wall 4ft high for ref....

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Posted : 13/07/2010 11:57 pm
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Looks like you'd have to jump it. Pretty dodgy though.


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 12:01 am
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If it was me I'd be looking for something to fill that little dip in! 🙂


 
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Yup, dodgy. If I unexpectedly came accross the situation above ^^^ at speed I'd prolly try and bunnyhop the lip from a good way back. If I knew it was there, I'd go a different way TBH...


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 12:07 am
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man the f up.. i.e. just go to the pub with teeth in tact.


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 12:08 am
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Push through it


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 12:12 am
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like this? -
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Posted : 14/07/2010 12:49 am
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Am I the only person who looked at that and thought it'd be much easier if it was left to right?

I am? I'll get my coat then....


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 1:16 am
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😆 at iain1775


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 1:34 am
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Several lols @ Iain.... It's funny because it's true 🙂


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 1:35 am
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😆 nice one Ian.

As woody posted though....If its a regular route and its doing your head in, take a trenching spade and fill the dip in! 8)


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 1:42 am
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there's a path gap at toad rock, tunbridge thats like that


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 1:53 am
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😆 at path gap, doesn't quite have the same ring to it.


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 1:56 am
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its a gap over a path. it is what it is 🙂


 
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Looks like fun


 
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Can you go diagonal through it, so that you're not hitting the (and subsequently your) lip of the coping stone straight on?
That would potentially give you a break before you launch off the four foot drop (to concrete I might add).
Personally, path sounds better to me, but then I don't have hero status as a rider. 😆

A 'risky' manoeuvre at the start of every ride - no thanks!


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 2:08 am
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just bunny hope before the little dip, and if you are going fast enough you will clear it with ease 🙂


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 8:06 am
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😆 at iain1775


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 8:12 am
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Just to highlight [b]iain1775[/b]'s contribution, here's an animated version

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from [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/celebrity-news-crazy-legs-narrowly-avoids-breaking-his-neck/page/2 ]this thread[/url]

🙂


 
Posted : 14/07/2010 8:29 am
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Thanks for all the input - when you say push through it jedi, in what sense? I suspect I do need to MTFU a bit and try it (there's a smaller one nearby that's a bit of cake, but it has no coping stone). I'd considered the hit it diagonal thing but when leaving the ground I really don't like starting off on diagonals - I've holes stitched up in my shin to prove that, and a bad relationship with one local pub after they refused to let me call an ambulance while I was spraying blood 3 or 4 foot across the path 🙂

ian - yep, thats definitely the ending I have currently in mind!


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 4:32 pm
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Can you not start your bunnyhop on the downslope and adjust your attitude in-flight so you land level?

I've done this on stuff, but not on that scale 🙂 Just bunnyhop but pull up on the bars just the right amount.

Alternatively, do it trials stylee. Roll down the slope, wheelie into backhops, hop onto coping stone then gracefully ease onto the ground.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 4:59 pm
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Its the angle of the downslope that gets me really, if it were flat I'd not even be thinking about it, but the fairly steep angle means that hopping it leaves a good few degrees to rotate mid-air and trialsing onto it (which I don't like doing on an NRS at 16 stone!) is a bit of a one-off attempt, cock it up and I'll be broken.

I'll keep working towards it, if I nail it I'll video it to show how I finally pull it off lol.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:02 pm
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Nice one Iain1775!!!


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:03 pm
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😆 at iain1775

+1


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:03 pm
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We want to see the video of your FIRST attempt. We don't care if you make it or not 🙂


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:17 pm
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well done boys just pi##ed myself laughing at the two later diagrams 😆


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:17 pm
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😆 at iain


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:22 pm
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We want to see the video of your FIRST attempt. We don't care if you make it or not

Fair point. I could probably do with a cameraman for the ambulance call!


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:24 pm
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Alternative without backhops would be to roll gently down the slope, turning into the dip then hop the back round so you're parallel to the wall (assuming it's a wall).. then hop on to it then bunnyhop sideways off it. Prob easiest 🙂


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:25 pm
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gently down the slope, turning into the dip then hop the back round so you're parallel to the wall (assuming it's a wall).. then hop on to it then bunnyhop sideways off it.

Same occurred to me. Of course, I don't have the skill to do this, but Ilike the idea. And quite elegant, too.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:30 pm
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Hmmm I'm thinking it's time to practice my 360s. Not on a lightweight XC frame, but I've needed a reason to build up my new back trials wheel and I think this is it.


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:32 pm
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Never mind about all the how-toos, what the heck happened to the poor guy in the pic? That's an advert for a full facer if ever I saw one (unless of course he was wearing one of those Met Parachutes at the time 😉 )


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:38 pm
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IMO you are asking the impossible OP, though I am happy for you to try it with Trolling Zoo Fighter's approach.

Who's the poor crashed bloke?


 
Posted : 15/07/2010 5:41 pm
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IMO you are asking the impossible OP

What's impossible? Clearing the obstacle or getting STW to give genuine sensible MTBing advice ? 😀


 
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I'd sideways hop it as well, if it's easy to get into the right position for that without falling off. Failing that, either fill in the dent to make it a smoother dropoff or do a hop before the dent.


 
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