Putting something in the best light is one thing, lying through your teeth is something very different..
I guess I'm just old fashioned.
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How much would you lie to get a job?
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Posted 2 years ago #
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I've been thinking about it quite a bit today. A big part of me wants to give it a go, thinking of all the times i've not got interviews or jobs because it's gone to someone that knows someone, even thou i (on paper) would be the prefered candidate. Then i think how unfair this is and that i should not be part of it (although i'm aware that integrity doesn't pay the bills).
Another part of me know's i'm terrible at lying and will be caught out at interview, even thou i'd have questions and answers given to me prior to the interview i doubt my BS'ing enough to carry it off.
A large chunk of me thinks that's an amazing opportunity and the salary is amazing, think of all the stupid useless crap i could buy to make myself feel better about being a lying cheating schmuck (although would i be 'cheating' if i was actually good at the job - i mean how bright do you have to be to go round with a clip board ticking boxes, i've a degree, and a masters, just not in a 'relevant' subject)
It will probably just boil down to whether i can leave to kids, i couldn't take them with me for fear of it all going horribly wrong.
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How much more money is it?
...that's what you can be bought and sold for...
We've all got a price, you've just found yours out.
You know it's wrong, just hope karma doesn't come back and find you.
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50K more than i'm on at the moment - that's kind of enough to make me think about it. I think that's enough to make most people think about it.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Cheat the system? You're having a laugh!
So, Matey feels he has a chance or progressing his career quickly and perhaps down the right path for him, and getting a shot at a bloody healthy portion of the pie - something in his own words he has never had before. Let's call it "the big break". To polish ones CV is one thing, to blatantly tell pork pies another.
When I started in IT, I spent 000's of hours teaching myself what I wanted to know (had a GNVQ in IT and some other irrelevant (to that field qualifications)) a mate of mine was self employed as an IT contractor, so I wrote on my CV i'd spent time with him (unpaid) to 'gain commercial experience' and other such, a blatant pork pie. I got the job as systems admin and went on to do really quite alright for myself at such a young age.
Who did it harm? no one. Did it do me any negativity? No. What detriment to my CV did it do? None.
What positives did it give me? that 'big break' I wanted in my chosen career at the time. I knew full well I was more than capable of doing the work (my mate was my referee and said pretty much the same) I soon quickly progressed and ended up with a pretty good job with pretty much most of my colleagues at least 10yrs older than me.
I don't condone lying nor do I lie now, however, if it's just a bit of CV polish and a friendly referee, and if matey is believes in himself to pull it off then i'd have my covering letter written before the first bit of ink started to dry.
I was once told something "You can teach a skill or two all day long to pretty much anyone, but you sure as hell can't teach someone the willingness to learn" It's so true. If Mr Showfiti is an absolute plank, then he'll fall on his own arse and screw things up for his bud, but surely you wouldn't ask a question like this without thinking you've got more than a 75/80% chance of getting a job offer.
Put it in riding a bike terms. Someone tells you that doing that 6' drop off is a piece of cake and "you can do it" so, if you think you're pretty handy on the bike, what do you do? get off and walk down because, you know, you might screw it up and land on your arse, or, do you have a bloody good go at it?
Make a calculated decision, think long and hard whether you can do it, if you can, get out there and get it done.
Good luck and all the best.
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I think you'll be caught out in the interview myself.
Do you want to work with a company of b'sh**rs? Could get very hairy if everyone senior to you drops what they don't know on you.
Can you stick it if you mate goes. And for that matter a mate is one thing, working with/for someone a whole different kettle of fish. And, thinking about it, if he's your boss and it all goes south he's going to have to performance manage you and potentially let you go if you can't do the job - and I'll assume his salary is partly sorted by performance of his team...
Having said all this, nothing ventured nothing gained... just consider the down side and how you'll pick yourself up in the 'current climate'.
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