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dmiller - Member

My mate just got his bike stolen. Im gutted for him but also worried about my own bikes!

My bikes are in a wooden shed and all locked to each other with a collection of cheap and expensive locks, the idea to make one big lump / mass that the local bams cant get out without making a lot of noise.

Ideally though I would like to secure them a bit more firmly... I cant use one of those motorbike style floor bolts as the floor is wooden and just help up at the 4 corners on old bits of slab.

I was planning to cut a hole in the floor, stick a garden big bin bag down and spread it around so I have a hole about 2" to 3" diameter wide with a bag down it thats about 6" tall by however much space it expands in each direction, pour some concrete / cement down there and embed a secure point for fasting all the bikes to... would this work? Would the concrete set?

Is there a better solution?

David.

Posted 2 years ago #
Stoner - Member

http://www.torc-anchors.com/shed-shackle.php

Posted 2 years ago #
FallOutBoy - Member

D-lock in a big bucket of concrete - lock you bikes to that?

Posted 2 years ago #
stompy - Member

One of these...........

Posted 2 years ago #
TandemJeremy - Member

Big block of concrete under the shed with a big ground anchor embedded in it is about as good ask you can get I guess.

Posted 2 years ago #
dmiller - Member

Liking both suggestions here!

Does anyone have one of the shed shackles? Are they any good? Look like the solution.

Defo like the D-Lock in a bucket of concrete plan for cheapness tho - £10 for a cheap D-Lock from ASDA. Would concrete dry in a plastic bag / bucket okay?

Posted 2 years ago #
dmiller - Member

Stompy - that would also sort out next doors dog as well?

Posted 2 years ago #
stompy - Member

I wish mate......

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

Certainly liking the ideas here (suffering with a rented wooden shed myself and hence keeping the decent bikes in the flat) but i suspect very little will help, especially the D lock, apart from local kids with no skillz. Recently took a set of power line croppers to a few locks for clearup of old locks purposes- So far they have removed a flimsy wire lock (5mm steel) and a 8-9mm wire-surrounded-by-hardened-rings like they were a golden dairy product. Later tests on old/abandoned locks include a hefty D lock and one of those galvanised-square-linked expensive locks like you see round motorbike wheels - both of which went through with minimal effort from a 5'2" computer programmer (not me), having withstood several attempts with a hacksaw each first.

Posted 2 years ago #
dmiller - Member

Hmmmm - how many people who have had thier bikes nicked have had thier locks cut?

I was wondering if it was common for bams to go equiped to those levels?

Posted 2 years ago #
tragically1969 - Member

I made myself a couple of these, puts a bit more of a barrier in the way of actually getting in the shed in the first place

http://www.dgsecurity.co.uk/Shed.htm

Posted 2 years ago #
enfht - Member

Encase your wooden shed within a brick shed ?

Posted 2 years ago #
uplink - Member

Look at it from the thief's POV & try to make it an unattractive proposition for him.

The last thing they want is to be seen - so if your shed is in a position where it's overlooked or can be seen from the road etc. make it difficult for them to gain entry, make them spend some time exposed
If it's a well concealed shed spend the money on more/better locks on the inside & get one of those cheap wireless shed alarms & make sure that the receiver would be audible to the thieves, just inside you're back door etc.

Posted 2 years ago #
Hairychested - Member

Uplink, when I lived in Hanwell we had a shed in the middle of the garden. It didn't stop the local scum from stealing my SX. Witnesses? None. Fingerprints? Nowt.
My advice - don't do it.

Posted 2 years ago #
tragically1969 - Member

OR:

http://www.break.com/index/electric-door-prank.html

Posted 2 years ago #
stumpy01 - Member

I had my bike nicked from a uni bike shed by someone suitable equipped to go through the fairly substantial D-lock it was attached to. Made some nice v-shaped teeth marks on the lock they left on the floor.
Also had a mates bike completely stripped of components while he was in a pub - they drove a van up as close as they could to it to work on it & then stripped everything they could off it (I guess they didn't have suitable tools to beat the lock).

So, I would go with the assumption that they will have some fairly heavy duty kit & avoid buying the cheapest locks you can get your hands on.

I am currently thinking along the same lines - hole in shed floor - dig large hole - fill with concrete & ground anchors, then run a chain round all the bikes & through the ground anchors. Anything that slows them down is worth it, I reckon.

Posted 2 years ago #
kingkongsfinger - Member

Can anyone recomend a very good padlock and chain?

Then you could push the chain into a "setting" large bucket/container of concrete.

I reckon this would be good.

But as coffeeking says, they "may" be able to cut through the chain/padlock with "croppers".

Posted 2 years ago #
badblood - Member

when my last bike got nicked, they cut through the hasp and staples on the shed door, through a kryptonite D lock and ripped a hasp and staple out of the floor with a Kryptonite cable lock on it. I also had a not very cheap wireless shed alarm that they diablsed as soon as it went off.

Didn't hear an effin thing - If they want it they will have it! The best thing to do is not advertise the fact you have a nice bike in the first place - carry it in the car, don't hang about locally on it etc...

Posted 2 years ago #
TheSwede - Member

Place a walk in bank vault inside your shed. Ebay ?

Posted 2 years ago #
Hal - Member

Yes, concrete will aventually dry in a hole or a bag in a hole.

Posted 2 years ago #
uplink - Member

I also had a not very cheap wireless shed alarm that they diablsed as soon as it went off.

The one I have can't be disabled from the shed end of the gubbins
Once it's gone off I need to cancel it at the receiver

Posted 2 years ago #
naokfreek - Member

Keep it in the house- that's that. My garden is v safe from intruders but bikes live indoors, no questions.

Hairychested, i know hanwell very well, brought up in ealing, some right mashed up scum in that area, would nick anything if they're not already leggless, ie, go to chicken shop for some crap food and get offered a snowboard for a tenner in summer....if your bike bikes not actually in your house then you run a much higher risk of having it nicked....

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

Concrete cures underwater IIRC!

Posted 2 years ago #
naokfreek - Member

that is true ck

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

some crap food and get offered a snowboard for a tenner in summer

Can you get me a snowboard for a tenner? I'd like one for winter!

Posted 2 years ago #
naokfreek - Member

Er ....no, i'm a skis person, tried snowboarding 19years ago and did'nt get on with it at all.

You could always go to the chicken shop in hanwell opposite lidls at 2 in the morning and see what turns up....Hairychested' sx probably.

Posted 2 years ago #
joolsburger - Member

Keep them in the house, it's the only way. My mate manages to store his under the stairs (wheels off) I keep mine in the conservatory.

Posted 2 years ago #
showerman - Member

not for everyone but as i have 2 bikes in the shed and would hate to lose one of them i have taken to removing the chainsets on both and put a u-lock though the bottom brackets motor cycle style with the built in alarms. Chainset only takes 2 mins to remove or refit lose of bikes would take a little longer to replace, lets see spme chave put that lot over his shoulder oh and remove front wheel. just remember not to store them next to the bike

Posted 2 years ago #
jumping_flea - Member

Got my two bikes in a shed.
Its one of those windowless ones with double locking and an alarm.

On the inside I'm using a dead weight (in this case a neutral CT from a 132kV transformer - small but very heavy - bout 70kgs) and expensive chain and lock to secure them.

It seems like if these thiefs want the bikes then they will get hold of them what ever. If they are carrying cutters that can get through expensive locks and chains and they have vans waiting then what can u do? Mine are insured so at least I can get a replacement if nicked.

Would be hesitant about storing in the house - if thiefs know I have a few grands worth of bikes to nick then I don't want them to attempt to break into my house when I'm out - or worse still when I'm out and the missus is in!

Posted 2 years ago #
bassspine - Member

+1 shed shackle. Brilliant piece of kit, it has reinforced the wall of my shed really well. Plus several motorcycle locks. And a bit of ships anchor chain, a couple of dlocks and several cheap 'newsagent' locks. I keep the expensive bikes near the wall, with a pile of other bikes locked in to the heap with lots of PITA locks.

Posted 2 years ago #
hamishthecat - Member

Yes the concrete will go off fine in a bucket or bag or whatever. It's a chemical reaction (that requires water) not a drying process.

Posted 2 years ago #
timwillows - Member

Webcam in the shed - then you can watch your bike as you post on here

Posted 2 years ago #
Northwind - Member

"one of those galvanised-square-linked expensive locks like you see round motorbike wheels - both of which went through with minimal effort from a 5'2" computer programmer (not me), having withstood several attempts with a hacksaw each first."

Sad fact is, most expensive chains are s**t, not because chains can't be protective but because they spend all the money on advertising and flash packaging then buy monkey metal chains from china for pennies and sell them for a ton.

You could get an Almax Immobiliser or similiar though, that'll be effective- they're not immune to hydraulic croppers but then not much is, they can cut through cars. But they'll stop almost any bolt cropper dead.

Posted 2 years ago #
joolsburger - Member

Where are you guys from, the Bronx?

Posted 2 years ago #
roddersrambler - Member

With the amount of cash you guys spend on chains and locks,you could buy a house in the country miles away from Kev and Denzel and their chums.

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