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  • Helicopter tape – all the same?
  • rascal
    Free Member

    About to buy some for the first time…is there a go-to brand/supplier that’s better than the rest?
    Need enough to protect a new bike – how much would I need?
    Sorry for the dumbass question 😳

    reggiegasket
    Free Member

    No. Some types are thin and bubble up too easily. You want the thicker stuff. I tend to get the JRA stuff which is pricey but works well. I’d be interested in a cheaper supplier of equivalent stuff.

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    Just Riding Along, Wildcat Gear (which is 3M) or 3M from a reliable ebay seller for me.

    If you’re just doing cable rub spots, you don’t need much at all.
    For whole chainstay, or other full tubes, obviously an extra foot would be useful.

    z1ppy
    Full Member

    I invested in an invisiframe kit for my latest bike, much more substantial than any helicopter tape I’ve seen & so far well worth it.
    Might not suit everyones needs though

    Kojaklollipop
    Free Member

    I’ve tried a few types, from bike tart, ebay and directly from 3M. Bike tart stuff was good, ebay stuff didn’t seem to apply as nice, the stuff directly from 3M went on the easiest and went into corners and around awkward shapes nicely. I’ll get mine from 3M in future, reasonable cost too.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    3M is a good starting point but there’s lots of listings on ebay claiming to be 3M and showing tape with 3M logo’d backing tape, that mysteriously doesn’t have it when it arrives.

    andylc
    Free Member

    3M Ventureshield is what you want. Same as Invisiframe use.

    mrlugz
    Free Member

    I bought an invisiframe kit. They may be expensive but its all pre cut with clear diagrams so well worth it IMO. Ive seen some pretty shoddy DIY helicopter tape jobs, why save a few quid on the finishing off kit when you possibly spent £000’s on a frame?

    mtbtomo
    Free Member

    Thick stuff is harder to get into corners and round bends but may offer a little more protection.

    The thin stuff is generally adequate for scuff protection or cable rub.

    rascal
    Free Member

    Still not got round to buying any, but just about to.
    Going to go with JRA – want to cover cable rub spots and main tubes on a Trigger…how much do I need?
    Options are:
    10x25cm
    10x50cm
    10x125cm Seems to be best amount.
    10x200cm
    Sound about right? £23 – no idea how this fairs with other brands. Def worth doing though?

    Thrustyjust
    Free Member

    I managed 2 mtrs on my Jekyll, but that was cranks and complete top tube. Remember to do it indoors and in the warm and use a hairdryer/ heat gun to soften the plastic and let it mould better. Also seems to adhere better and round the corners too.

    eddiebaby
    Free Member

    Big plus one for Viking

    oxym0r0n
    Full Member

    JRA stuff has been much better than most of the thicker eBay stuff I have tried – just seems.to stick better on the edges, rather than peeling up. I have just used it for cable rub/tyre rub places plus a big run on downtube and seat tube

    james
    Free Member

    The stuff I’ve had from bike tart applies well enough, but after a few of rock strikes and a little time it shatters/crumbles away. Okay for cable rub but not a lot more ime

    rascal
    Free Member

    Read on on the Viking 3m stuff – sounds good…however £6.20 delivery for a roll of tape is taking the piss!

    andyl
    Free Member

    Paragon 3m x 150mm seems to be the best value. Not genuine 3M but the price of 3M is a bit shocking at the moment.

    On my C456 I have the proper thick matte black stuff they use on the Lynx. Shame it won’t really work on my Trigger as it’s painted. Still might use the thick black stuff on the downtube but it has cables in the way so not a lot of use.

    thesurfbus
    Free Member

    Used to use Paragon tapes, but the last stuff has been pretty poor quality, far too stiff and didn’t follow contours, then eventually lifted at the edges.

    Currently using Tesa Heli tape from Ebay, thick, sticky and flexible, just used 75mm x 1m and 50mm x 2m on the new bike.

    johnnystorm
    Full Member

    ascal – Member
    Read on on the Viking 3m stuff – sounds good…however £6.20 delivery for a roll of tape is taking the piss!

    They’re probably used to supplying industry who buy miles of the stuff at a time.

    tooFATtoRIDE
    Free Member

    Even with the delivery costs, it is still quite a good value.

    andyl
    Free Member

    Used to use Paragon tapes, but the last stuff has been pretty poor quality, far too stiff and didn’t follow contours, then eventually lifted at the edges.

    That’s quite worrying. hmm

    thesurfbus
    Free Member

    Just bought some clear Gorilla Tape, going to see how it works on the frame, its £7 for 8 metres so good value if it works

    AlexSimon
    Full Member

    Options are:
    10x25cm
    10x50cm
    10x125cm Seems to be best amount.
    10x200cm

    They’re all plenty in terms of area, so you just need to work out what the longest length single piece you need is. For me it was chainstays, so I went with the 10×50.

    Although now I have a huge roll from Wildcat which must be a couple of meters.

    hillsplease
    Full Member

    3m. Some of the e bay stuff is hopeless.

    cardo
    Full Member

    +1 for Invisiframe, expensive but looks mint and quality tape…

    dbukdbuk
    Free Member

    When did sticky back plastic become “helicopter tape”? What have helicopters got to do with it?

    eddie11
    Free Member

    it was invented in the vietnam war to quickly repair or balance damaged rotor blades. apparently.

    alexh
    Free Member

    I bought some useless paragon tape too. Just would not adhere to contours, even with heat.

    rascal
    Free Member

    Has anyone apart from eddiebaby used to Viking 3M stuff?
    Ripoff postage but still seems a good deal (if it’s good stuff) at £25 for 3 metres…

    dbukdbuk
    Free Member

    “it was invented in the vietnam war to quickly repair or balance damaged rotor blades. apparently.”

    Invented? That seems a bit of a bold claim. Surely someone just said “hey, why don’t we just put some sticky backed plastic on it”.

    crashtestmonkey
    Free Member

    When did sticky back plastic become “helicopter tape”? What have helicopters got to do with it?

    it’s used to protect the leading edge of rotor blades from damage.

    Used to use and recommend Paragon but the last stuff I had also yellowed VERY quickly.

    thisisnotaspoon
    Free Member

    Invented? That seems a bit of a bold claim. Surely someone just said “hey, why don’t we just put some sticky backed plastic on it”.

    It’s not ‘sticky backed plastic’ like you’d put on your school books, it’s polyurethane, which is more like rubber.

    So when you (or a rock) hits it, it absorbs the energy and bounces it off.

    As crashtestmonkey said, they apply it to the front of helicopter blades to protect from all the sand/dust/gravel/rocks that get kicked up. Then boy racers discovered it was great for protecting the fronts of lowered cars, then mountainbikers caught on.

    Having written that defense, I put some on a frame, it made the frame look like crap for the time I owned it, peeled it off and the next owner got a new looking frame. Seemed a waste of owning a nice shiny new frame!

    I now just make sure the cables are run properly and don’t rub!

    andyl
    Free Member

    Used to use and recommend Paragon but the last stuff I had also yellowed VERY quickly.

    Sounds like they have switched to a non-UV stable PU. Wish I not ordered now, will see what it’s like when it turns up.

    The PU tape is applied to the leading edges of rotor blades to protect them against sand erosion. The blades typically have nickel or titanium leading edge which area classes as erosion shields but are dreadful in sand erosion. You get this effect when the sand hits the metal which makes a helicopter dropping off troops in the desert quite an obvious target, especially when viewed with NVGs and it’s like a strobe light to the pilots and gunners wearing NVGs.

    The UK military was spending a lot of money during the 1st gulf war due to the damage and it was raised in the house of commons by Maggie Thatcher.

    The current solutions certainly arent perfect though.

    A better tape for impact is the “belly tape” which is basically PU tape over a foam adhesive layer to give a graded cushioning tape.This is used on aircraft like the C-130 and is perforated to stop it blistering as air tries to escape gaps in the fuselage.

    andyl
    Free Member

    Another video of a hh-60 through NVGs

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny2ueQEmkEk[/video]

    gfrew88
    Free Member

    Its got to be Invisiframe.

    You get what you pay for… which is a neat,tidy,finish i’ve used it on my current and previous bikes and its been faultless i’m sure it uses 3M .

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