After years away from the fun and scariness of HT's Ive decided that the pain of proper full suss maintenance just isnt for me so I want a new frame to build up

The thing is theres loads of choice and I cant decide

All I know is that I will be sticking a 130-140mm fork on it and going for a light-ish XC build
Im not doing the Alps and Im too chicken for mahoosive drops these days 🙂

So guys and gals give me your best pub talk prejudice and flannel
Six words max only per bike please
And if anyone actually knows what I should buy all the better LMAO

Soul (looks perfect)
Ragley's (look like tractors – sorry Brant)
Hummer
456 (love the Ti but prob more hardcore then I need)
Chameleon

Etc etc etc

i just sold a marin rocky ridge frame but id heartily recommend one. it felt almost identical geo wise to my old chameleon but had a bit more give at the back and no faffy ebb/slidey dropout.

i love my sovereign, with 130/140 fork it has near perfect trail geo IMO, 68 h/a, decent reach etc but is built to handle far more. its not the lightest frame though so could well be overkill really.

If you`re not doing massive drops and want lightweight do you really need 130-140mm forks……..?

You know you need a Soul (6 words) 🙂

i have a ti456 and a chameleon

chameleon – fun, quick, confidence inspiring, direct, (a tad) harsh
ti456 – fun, quick, confidence inspiring, direct, forgiving

lol i ignored the rules, beer allows me to do this: FACT

I have a Chameleon would highly recommend one, done 60mile races to a week downhilling in the alps… wouldn't say that getting 140mm forks is pointless buuuuut, I have uturn pikes and the bike handles better at 120mm (bike is warrentied up to 150mm)… so would suggest getting 120mm reba's… over heavier 140mm ones.

connect to the trail
real biking
hone those skills

Cove stiffee stunning perfect a quailty ride

Orange P7 (rides perfect) – 4 words

genesis alptitude- mine might be for sale

Chameleon. Pay attention you c@*t. Chameleon. 😉

For general riding I run 120mm maxle reba's on my 456Ti, great ride, but just try a steel 456 to see how it goes – cheap enough.

130-140mm and lightish XC????

If you want 130-140mm, from your list:

2008 Hummer – Best bike I've owned (Until)
2010 Hummer – Blows the 08 away

If 120mm will do – Genesis Altitude – very impressive, somewhere between above 2

Custom? – Curtis

If you're running 130-140 forks up front, I reckon you need a steel frame (sweeping enough?!)

Soul
Whyte 19 steel (can you this as a frame? – 6 words)
Altitude

Kinesis maxlight xc120 (Probably my most posted 3 words)

Simple, anything made by dialled bikes 😉

What wrong with Pace? I have a rc303 and love it.

Cove Stiffee – Childish name: Childish grin!

Bobster
2010 Hummer really that much better? I thought it was pretty much the same geometry, only asking as I'm tempted

Soul- trail perfection, doesn't come cheap 😉

P7, not light but good. [Blank]

What about that new steel pace number?

Go and ride them and see which you prefer the feel of. Then go and buy a Prince Albert.

More than 6 words but who cares.

All good advice
Particularly those who keep to the 6 word rule LOL

Current dilemmas:

There are too many choices to test ride them all

Why is a Soda over £1000 more than a Soul?

Whats the difference between all those Ragleys?

How badly do I want a Lynskey?

OT: Peak or Cannock tomorrow 🙂 ??

Ragley's (look like tractors – sorry Brant)

don't agree.

and ride like a dream

Impulse buy then
It's made of unobtanium
about 457 Brant brain cells
Not badly enough
Macc/Three Shires Head area of Peak (ever been?)

Go for steel (853 is worth it), 100-120mm corrected and stick an adj travel fork on (sounds like you'll rarely need 130mm). Pick a nice colour.

Whyte 19: Because you've balls like a horse (6 words)

mwleeds, he is talking the truth (there you go 6 words)

456-Best bike I ever had

A

Whyte 19 Cos if you dont your gay

Where is the mandatory Inbred reccomendation?

UM someone said 456 while I was typing thats close enough!

ride a bike soon

"Where is the mandatory Inbred reccomendation? "

"Not strong enough any more- official" 😉

Prince Albert biking royalty

i know i'd sure like one