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I've got a santa cruz chameleon right now, with a rockshox revelation 426 fork (110-140mm travel), chris king 1+1/8 headset, XT BB, thomson 30.9 seatpost.

However, for certain reasons I'm not happy with the chameleon, and want to get a new frame. I would like to keep it as light as possible, while still being able to take 140mm of travel. I also want stiffness.

I have looked at the ragley mmbop, but what's it like with 110mm travel? And I think I know you can change a 1.5 headset down to 1+1/8, so my fork would be fine with the mmbop, but would I need a new headset? Could I use a 1.5 chris king headset?

And what other frames could you recommend, something under 5-6lbs?


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 7:26 pm
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Cove Stiffee?
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Posted : 11/11/2009 7:40 pm
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That Stiffee looks quite arousing.


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 7:42 pm
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Cotic Soul? New one is rated for 140mm and works a charm at any length your fork'll do. Though you'd need a new seatpost. Comes in just a hair heavier than your Chameleon despite being steel...

I'd look at the Ragley, or a 456, as well. TBH the question of "What's it like with 110mm" might not make much sense, I think it'll be more "Will I ever feel like I need the 110mm setting". Which you might not.


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 7:43 pm
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i have a mm bop, but running 150mm on it.
very nice bike, and with the right build it would be a lovely light ride.
would not fancy it a 110mm tho....

but i keep hankering for a xl stiffee, and running it with 140mm forks, and getting rid of all my other bikes.


 
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you could get an on one and stick some pikes on the front, seems that most people here do the same. stiffees=awesome. also, if you're feeling flush have a look at cotics, orange p7 and the 24seven twin deviant


 
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That Stiffee looks quite arousing.

Why thank you kind sir.


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 7:46 pm
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What's not right about the Cham?


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 8:05 pm
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What's not right about the Cham?

Thats what i was wondering, i don't really see how any the other bikes above would be a huge difference apart from going to steel.


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 8:21 pm
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I just built my new Cham with some revelations up front. I gotta say I prefer it to my Heckler in this winter stuff.


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 8:33 pm
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Dialled alpine?
Mine is in the post And I can't bloody wait!


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 8:40 pm
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stiffness wise i didn't there was much stiffer than a chameleon?


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 8:41 pm
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Posted : 11/11/2009 8:57 pm
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Pace 303 was a nice bike with Pikes at 140mm.
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Don't forget the Hummer 🙂
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Posted : 11/11/2009 9:54 pm
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Ive got a rocky mountain flow 05 (best year still handmade then) frame I am selling for £110 inc newish orbit extreme headset and seatpost... like this but in white:

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/221625/

frame weight is 4.5lbs i think... built for hard trail and 4x duties...


 
Posted : 11/11/2009 9:57 pm
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Ok, thinking about the soul, the mmbop, the [url= http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pace/rc305-2009-mountain-bike-frame-ec000909 ]pace rc305[/url](?), and the dialled alpine. Although the alpine looks a little heavy, and I'm not seeing the advantage of that extra weight.

Basically what's wrong with my chameleon is its not built for real world riding. Almost every time I ride, the EBB creaks like mad, the frame fills up with water, and I feel like I made a complete mistake buying it. Its such a fantastic bike in the dry, and if I lived somewhere where it never rained I'd probably buy another.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:56 pm