I agree with druidh, I've got a Sutra, the first preproduction one that came over for the bike shows; crap paint and a BB shell that was oval! Great bike, but as has been said, pretty heavy. It is designed as a tough tourer, so that's not surprising. I've singlespeeded mine, hand sprayed it Hammerite black, and put on a pair of Profile Aerobars, with bar-end levers and Crosstop levers, Maxxis CX tyres and mudguards for winter use. It's been brilliant, the amount of salt put down on the roads collects in the cycle lane I use to get to work, and the Sutra has been ideal, I even put a Taya galvanized chain on it. Just an excellent hack bike, and the discs are awsome. I actually rode it on part of the Conti Route in Wales in original spec, and it coped fine.