Of course your within your rights, why not exercise them on a shooting range?
Because that would not be "within my rights" would it 
life must be so cozy when you don't have to take responsibility for your own actions
Whilst running along a bridleway at what point was I NOT taking responsibility for MY own actions?
Junkyard - Memberwhen a dog is actually biting me I am not going to stop and see if it stops as well. I am going to stop and kick the fecker till it stops.
Too Bloody right!
A mates dog once jumped on to me when I was sat on the settee and bit my hand drawing blood he looked at me and said oh sorry he does that sometimes. It tried again a bit later I caught it and threw it and said oh sorry I do that sometimes. We are no longer friends. IME bad dog owners know there dogs are bad and should be more responsible.
Nothing against dogs in general lovely creatures
Your ex mate is a **** and you are better off without him.
So Dog owners- you're telling me that if I cycle slowly past a dog (which I do slow down and ring my bell way ahead) and if I'm attacked then it is my fault?
You are at fault and expect to pay bills and injuries when some toddler is mangled for no reason when you go to court or expect heavies to knock on your door at night 
I love behaved dogs btw.
So Dog owners- you're telling me that if I cycle slowly past a dog (which I do slow down and ring my bell way ahead) and if I'm attacked then it is my fault?
Absolutely not your fault, but the dog must be controlled and, by slowing down, you have done have done something not to spook the dog. If, however, you spook the dog by riding too quicky, too close and the dog reacts, then yes, you have some responsibility. I can not speak for people who don't train, don't control and don't respect the rights of others. 
Don you always seem so reasonable on here but you seem to have lost the plot a bit today
At which pont did I blame the victims,
Have you ever considered that your actions contributed to the attack
I wouldn't expect you to understand that though.life must be so cozy when you don't have to take responsibility for your own actions and the whole world bends and flexes itself to fit into yopur narrrow mindednes.
VictimS plural, not victim singular. I choose my words carefully.
And read my last post too, that might help...
As a bit of a generalisation the UK has developed into a society where people don't take responsibility for their actions. I live in a society with a different point of view. Let's take an example, a hole in the pavement. A person walks down a British street and falls in. Who is responible? The local council? County Coucil? Central Govt? Or you for not looking where you're going? Here in Spain a certain element would fall on you for not looking where you're going...
Take the zebra crossing from above,you have a right to cross as a pedestrian, but don't you look first to see if it's safe? Make a decision and not just excercise your right without thinking??
ah pedantic arguing now Excellent move
I agree re the other exampleS you cite
But, you agree with the fact that everyone has to take responsibility. In the case of the OP, clearly the dog owner is at fault as a 6yr old can't be held responsible. There might be an argument for the parents allowing a 6yr old ride a bike on the road, but that's a different argument.
The runner may/may not have startled the dog which attacked him/her, without details it's difficult to say.
As an owner of a (perceived) dangerous dog, I have to be more catious than most, and maybe my first post this afternoon was a bit of a reaction. 
Example, last week we were out for a walk and I was talking to a local farmer, he asked if I let my dog off the lead, I replied that his dog was off the lead and with both off there might be a problem and secondly I didn't know where the livestock was. Easy.
People who simply say that dogs and their owners should be klled/maimed have serious problems, IMHO.
don simon - MemberIf, however, you spook the dog by riding too quicky, too close and the dog reacts, then yes, you have some responsibility.
Wrong 100% don simon. The person has an absolute right to go about their business unbothered by the dog. the dog should be under control at all times.
(perceived)
No **** "perceived" about it mush
Wrong 100% don simon. The person has an absolute right to go about their business unbothered by the dog. the dog should be under control at all times.
I agree.
For what it's worth, I'm not a dog owner as we couldn't give it the time and attention it deserves. I like dogs and most owners are indeed responsible. Once again it's the minority of idiots who give them a bad name. Much like everything else in life...
Hello dd, have you got yours yet?
Wrong 100% don simon. The person has an absolute right to go about their business unbothered by the dog. the dog should be under control at all times.
And TJ arrives.. I agree with the statement that the dog should be under control as you can well see by reading the previous posts. My dog and I also have rights too. The general public have to be under control too. You'll be telling me next that I'm supposed to know, without being told, which people do and which people don't have phobias of dogs. Telepathy?
No - you're supposed to control your dog as if everyone has a phobia. That way you are being responsible.
That's a troll, right?
AS druidh says. Your dog has no rights. The dog must be under control AT ALL TIMES. This means the dog must to bother anyone else. This is absolute.
If your dog is startled by cyclists its your responsibility to keep it under control. The cyclist does not have to do anything.
What can or can't you do around me because of my phobias? FFS Grow up or grow some!
don simon - Member
That's a troll, right?
Certainly not. You just don't get it do you?
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well of course but it is all relative> I would put the case you cite more as someone crosses the road on a pelican crossing legitiamelty, driver comes rouind corner does not see them driver runs them over - yes both at "fault" but one is about 99% and one about 1 % . Same with dog so what if I run a bit close to it and it gets spooked - that is not under control is it and if my dog did this it would not be off the lead where people were near - like your dog and cattle.
My original post noted that these kind of things are not a one off attack by an otherwise good dog - the owners are generally aware and just not acting responsibly.
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