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  • flow
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    Btw why is a top speed of 106mph ever possibly a problem outside of Germany? Seriously, are you like 12 years old or something?

    Typical Prius owner comment that one.

    Reminds me of this though

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Of course it’s a Prius owner comment.. it’s car designed for maximum economy. Would you slag off a road bike because it wasn’t any good at Cwmcarn?

    Actually, you probably would, if you thought it would score you a few points 😉

    TandemJeremy
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    it’s car designed for maximum economy

    Really? I thought it was designed to be zero pollution in towns for the Californian market and to be a test bed for hybrid tech.

    A car designed for economy would not be anything like that – think modern 2cv instead

    5lab
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    the prius is never zero emission – it’ll only do a couple of miles on electric only mode and at fairly low speed. of course it is designed for economy, but with a level of compromise that toyota figured most people would accept. If you made it like a 2cv no-one would buy it, as they were rattly, slow and uncomfortable.

    TandemJeremy
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    5lab – but they count as that for the californian regs IIRC

    A modern 2cv – , light, economical engine, room for 4 adults – a 2cv would do massive mpg – a modern take on one would be very economical indeed without all the parasitic weight of modern cars

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Maximum economy within the constraints of what consumers expect and want. Of course it could be more efficient but no-one would buy it so it’d not make money and not enough people would take it up for it to have an effect on global emissions.

    They’ve sold loads, but also kick-started a lot more hybrid models from other manufs, particularly in the US. It may be a marginal improvement over a diesel in fuel and CO2 terms but people in the US are going from 25mpg to 45mpg which is significant.

    retro83
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    TandemJeremy – Member
    5lab – but they count as that for the californian regs IIRC

    A modern 2cv – , light, economical engine, room for 4 adults – a 2cv would do massive mpg – a modern take on one would be very economical indeed without all the parasitic weight of modern cars

    That’d be the new Micra (K13) then? Clever engine (super charged, CVVT 3 cylinder using the miller cycle), light weight compared to its peers, just about enough room for adults. I think the safety regs have killed off the possibility of a mass produced, reasonably priced, light weight car so that’s about as close as you’ll get.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    The miller/atkinson/whatever it’s called thing is a great idea, cna’t imagine why it’s not used more. Got any links about that new micra? Is it a special eco job or just the normal one?

    PeterPoddy
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    Diesel. Good for things beginning with ‘T’

    Tractors
    Trucks
    Trains
    Tanks
    Transits
    Tug boats
    Taxis

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Not at all.

    Turtles
    Tuna
    Tulips

    And your list misses out

    Towing
    Torque
    Terrific fuel economy.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Checked out that Micra.. interesting idea, I was thinking the small displacement/forced induction thing was a good idea. Plus they seem to have VVT deployed to switch between miller cycle and normal as needed.

    However it’s interesting to note that as small and clever as it is, it’s still 10% less efficient than a Prius on the official tests. Toyota done a good job.

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