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Posted 10 months ago #
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Modifications never add value, even when they're good ones like this. Best you can hope is to find someone for whom it doesn't take value away usually. Also you seem to have been trying to sell it for at least 2 months, and increased the price since last time? That's not a strong selling position. At the end of the day, the buyer's asked for more info, and he's offered you what he thinks it's worth. It's less than you think it's worth but then, you can't sell it for that so far.
And yeah, only takes 2 seconds to find a brand new one for £405 (avoiding the almighty c*** Mark Anthony) , with front rack, stem and Salsa clamp included.
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Remember, you also said ono, thus inviting offers. In fact his appears to be the nearest, so strictly you should sell to him at his offer price
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You offered something for sale, someone made an offer.
If you don't like it say no, thankyou. They may even make another offer, but nothing has been lost by being polite.
What's your point again
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AND IT'S BEEN CUSTOMISED/UPGRADED
Does it have spoons Araldited to it?
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Does it have spoons Araldited to it?
Posted 10 months ago # -
Just thinking out loud here;
normal guestimate for second hand is 50% less retail minus 10% per year - so that's £200 minus 2 years for a 2009 frameset (if you discount that 2012 frames are starting to come out now) which works out at £120. Plus this is for a non-standard frame that you have altered (so will be a niche product).
And your complaining about being offered £160?Posted 10 months ago # -
You offered something for sale, someone made an offer If you don't like it say no, thankyou. They may even make another offer, but nothing has been lost by being polite What's your point again
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Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!
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its worth more than 160
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I'm another that goes for the 50% of new price, then more off for each year.
So my Nicolai Argon cost £1350 with all the custom bits, three years old and sold it for £350.
It's just old metal, there not works of art.Posted 10 months ago # -
making an offer (even if it is low and especially for something no one else wants) isn't time wasting, making an offer then pulling out would be
Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!
doubt anyone HATES you, feel sorry for you, CBA with you, irritated by you maybe but TBH you're far too sad and needy to HATEPosted 10 months ago # -
cynic-al - Member
Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!
i'd hate to think what you were like when you didn't get you own way as a kid, tantrums in the supermarket?
if you don't get an offer you like, don't accept it, get left with frame. it's not rocket science, what is sad though is posting about how hard done by you are on the internet just because you can't get what you want
thats not hating, its pity
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TBH When I saw the ad first of all, I thought Oh nice frame but then read about the "added disc mounts", thought of the recently much publicised home bodge attempts, which have appeared on here, and didn't look any further. Maybe some photos in the ad would have helped. It actually looks a lot nicer than the description. Trouble is that this thread and the reactions on it aren't likely to make people want to buy it any more.
Steve-Austin - Member
its worth more than 160
Hmm I'd have thought it was worth what someone is prepared to pay!!
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Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!
Note sure I've seen any haters (I can't use 'haterz' as I'm not 12) on this thread. Mostly people are offering decent advice. You seem to be surprised and supset that anyone would offer you a price lower that what you consider fair.
If that's the case, you really shouldn't be selling in the secondhand market. People offer what they want, and justify that price to themselves, not to you.
From the opposite side, I see people advertising things on here at ludicrously inflated prices. Every so often I'll make what I conder to be a fair offer and be given short shrift, other times people will take my offer, but usually it ends up somewhere between. That said, I never try and chip people further - cash in their acount immediately, never a quibble with paying courier charges, and the deal's concluded very quickly.
In your case, I'd say the offer the chap made to you was around fair, maybe £20 light.
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Hmm I'd have thought it was worth what someone is prepared to pay!!
And what the seller is willing to accept. Isn't this why we have Ebay?Posted 10 months ago # -
1/10 poor effort Al
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1/10 poor effort Al
Is that in general, or just for this thread?
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Aww GW...as if you know me from this forum? I expected better from you
Thanks goog! That kind of support makes it worthwhile...
Maybe some photos in the ad would have helped
There were photos in the ad.
Anyway I can learn, even from you lot. I'm gonna email the guy and CLOSE THE DEAL
maybe.
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There were photos in the ad.
No there weren't, there was a link to Flickr. Remember that people are lazy
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I don't like to waste people's bandwidth.
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I don't like to waste people's bandwidth.
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Heh I only just got that
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IF I was the guy I'd retract my offer and make a much lower one, seems like you haven't got any buyers other than him so it obviously isn't worth what you thought.
TBH if someone make's me a low offer I might think I need to educate them in the value of my product as they may well end up being the buyer. I tend to offer a polite decline and a helpful push in the right direction. It does not pay to alienate your customers. Or revise my expectations accordingly.
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So my Nicolai Argon cost £1350 with all the custom bits, three years old and sold it for £350.
Don't have anything else for sale do you? House would be nice
Posted 10 months ago # -
Aww GW...as if you know me from this forum? I expected better from you
sorry to disappoint but I only really know anything about you from reading years worth of your sad, needy, attention seeking drivel on this forum.
Posted 10 months ago # -
Sorry, late to the party. I was just thinking, time wasters?
"I want £400 for this."
"Hey, I'll give you £140."
"No, you're alright."
Not exactly haemorrhaging hours there, are we? Ok, they might well be taking the proverbial but there again they might just be chancing their arm in the hope that you really want rid of it and have had no other takers.
Posted 10 months ago # -
I bought a road stem a few years ago for £150, it felt like the wrong size so I bought another to compare. When I finally decided which length to go to it was a bit late to return it so I advertised it on the classifieds. No-one was interested here so I Ebayed it. RRP by then was close to £200, it went for £45 and the guy still complained that the postage was too high!
Needless to say I was gutted but that was it's market value, if it wasn't sold it would still be unused in my garage.
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If I'm buying, i always offer less than asking price, sometimes cheekily low, but if its something I really want and its popular I might cut to the chase and offer the asking price. If I'm selling, I always advertise at more that I'd expect it to go for. I expect to haggle. Its what the second-hand market is all about.
Sometimes you get a bargain, sometimes you don't.
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I bought a road stem a few years ago for £150
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Mol - yes I know, what can I say? I was earning well and had just built a very nice road bike. Fortunateley I got it all out of my system before the kids arrived
Posted 10 months ago # -
multiple-mega-OOOOF!
I am destroyed.
Posted 10 months ago # -
its worth more than 160
How much are you offering then, S-A?Posted 10 months ago # -
pOOr aL!
I'll piss myself if the chap makes a lower offer now...
Do the deal Al!Posted 10 months ago # -
My biggest problem is the people who say they definitely want something and can you hold it until they can collect. They then leave you hanging with no communication and either change their minds (but don't tell you until you chase them) or get the hump when you sell it to someone else a couple of weeks later having heard nothing from them.
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