[Closed] Classiflids timewasters

It's an offer, you can take it or leave it.

(apologies if this is a timewasting response)

Indeed but would you get into lots of chat about the item then make a crap offer with no justification?

if the guy had said "I'm offering you x because I've seen them go on ebay for y" etc then fair enough, but he literally said "I'm happy to offer you (insert crap offer here)"

Times are hard.

ill give you 120% of his offer, cant say fairer than that?

I got offered £400 for a bike I sold for £2k 🙄

Indeed but would you get into lots of chat about the item then make a crap offer with no justification?

its called buttering you up, take it or leave it, but don't expect symapthy here.

Al, I'll give ye a half-sooked sweetie and a couple of spoons......

Ive had sellers slate me when offering 10%/15%/20% lower than their asking price
Ive also inwardly whooped when seeing said items finish a few days later on eBay for less than I offered..before fee's.

An item is only worth what someone is willing to pay. Sometimes its beter to tkae the money and run.

I also agree with the negotiating comment, some sellers wont even consider it.. weird

Normal negotiation doesn't start so low though. People that take the p!ss with an offer don't even get to a counter offer stage with me, so if that's what they were after then they need to think what's reasonable and not just take the mickey.

sellers are just as bad.. nice leather armchair on eblag the other week ( look loverly in my snug) starting price 100 quid. finishes mon am i'm in the area sat so offer 125 turned down flat. didnt bid on eblag didnt get an offer so went unsold so I rang up and offered 50 bit my hand off.. i had to lay out 40 quid in juice to go get the thing.. could have saved me money and done the world a bit of good too.

Got to be careful when you start these threads as they can have a nasty habit of coming back to haunt you: what if what they offered you is a fair amount?

[i]People that take the p!ss with an offer don't even get to a counter offer stage with me, so if that's what they were after then they need to think what's reasonable and not just take the mickey[/i]

+1 although only if what you're asking is a fair price in the first place

thats what I was thinking, usually sellers have an ambitious evauluation.
are you 100% certain you arent asking too much?

60% of RRP ( not of cheapest available price) sounds too much to me for an 18 month old frame but I can't see the add to see if its available discounted

Maybe it's someone who was offended by something you said, who decided to uck about with you a bit.

Nice frame, and the disc mounts do look nicely done. If I was about to drop money on a new one I would consider Al's one instead. Not sure I would be fussed either way about the addition of disc mounts, but that's just me.

But to be devil's advocate.... (Or just what Al might say of it wasn't his thread....)
The 2011 frameset is £400, obviously with a warranty. Don't we often see £400 frames a couple of years old going for £160ish on the classifieds in these hard times?

Perhaps your buyer was hoping you would haggle him/her back up to £160 or so, but has rather alarming way of haggling.

Yeah that is a nice looking frame actually. Cant work out the sizing though relative to the spec sheet.

I just take any offer in the mix. Difficult to assess the value of used bike bits really, I guess its what people are willing to pay. £150-200 is probably not too far off its value. I sold an old Syncros post on retrobike recently for £45 and a Terrys clip (little thing for holding a stopwatch) on ebay for £26. WTF!! Where is the sense in that!!

Depends how much you want to keep it!!

NB Salsa stuff is pretty expensive relatively so maybe more so to a second hand buyer?

270 of 400 is 67.5 % of RRP

it's never discounted. AND IT'S BEEN CUSTOMISED/UPGRADED *AWAITS FLAMING*

dMN cl.

it had a higher RRP TJ - and is now a bit of a different frame.

Actually the disc mounts on that frame look like quite a nice job!

Oh and the current RRP is £449

NO shortage of timewasters then...

So, he offered about £160. Has anyone offered you more?

Oh, got my sums wrong up there. So buyer offered you £180ish. I expect they planned to be haggled back up to £210ish for a 2 year old £[s]400[/s]450 frameset then. Is it me or does that not sound so bad?

[edit] crossed posts. It looks pretty easy to come by one at £50 off rrp though.

just going on what Julian wilson above said. Just checked - 2011 version available for £400

What the RRP is is irrelevant Its available for 400 new

"NO shortage of timewasters then... "

Ah but thats the fun of buying and selling bike meccano on the classifieds 😀

Sympathies Al. There are still some decent people on the classifieds but an awful lot of people who don't seem to understand the basic principals of buying and selling and even common courtesy.

I'm at the point where I've got more faith in fleabay and that's a damning indictment on how some people treat the classifieds.

[img] [/img]Is this for sale still?

I offer 50 kemels and 10 elefunts (Claps hands)

Oh and the current RRP is £449

Its a buyers market.

Suck it up you little cry baby. 😈

Not much of a haggler here, but I have had a couple of frames and a bike from classifieds here for way less than 50% rrp. To put it into perspective, the last one i bought (a yeti and all!) was 2006 not 2009 granted, but absolutely mint and cost me maybe 30% of original rrp. I think I got a tenner off the buyer's asking price and a discount on seatpost he was selling in same ad.

Junkyard was that last selection of words meant to be a sentence?
Maybe you guys have a point. I may get back to him but suspect I've shot myself in the foot calling him a timewaster.

GLad to see you taking such an interest TJ 😀

sort of, a bit like your forks sort of have front disc brakes 😉
Fair point actually.

Ur preis iz Sarcin 😆

Modifications never add value, even when they're good ones like this. Best you can hope is to find someone for whom it doesn't take value away usually. Also you seem to have been trying to sell it for at least 2 months, and increased the price since last time? That's not a strong selling position. At the end of the day, the buyer's asked for more info, and he's offered you what he thinks it's worth. It's less than you think it's worth but then, you can't sell it for that so far.

And yeah, only takes 2 seconds to find a brand new one for £405 (avoiding the almighty c*** Mark Anthony) , with front rack, stem and Salsa clamp included.

Remember, you also said ono, thus inviting offers. In fact his appears to be the nearest, so strictly you should sell to him at his offer price

You offered something for sale, someone made an offer.

If you don't like it say no, thankyou. They may even make another offer, but nothing has been lost by being polite.

What's your point again 😯 ?

AND IT'S BEEN CUSTOMISED/UPGRADED

Does it have spoons Araldited to it?

Does it have spoons Araldited to it?

Just thinking out loud here;
normal guestimate for second hand is 50% less retail minus 10% per year - so that's £200 minus 2 years for a 2009 frameset (if you discount that 2012 frames are starting to come out now) which works out at £120. Plus this is for a non-standard frame that you have altered (so will be a niche product).
And your complaining about being offered £160?

You offered something for sale, someone made an offer If you don't like it say no, thankyou. They may even make another offer, but nothing has been lost by being polite What's your point again

+1

Great to see the haterz brigade out as ever!

its worth more than 160