Is andrewh tandemjeremy in disguise? He obviously doesn't drive a car, or certainly nowhere there's any imperfections in the road. I wrecked an alloy wheel late one night on a narrow singletrack road and there was a pickup truck in front of me had done the same thing. Rough Tarmac, lots of loose debris and mud, a pothole is easily missed, and when it's on a road with little space to avoid, even if you can see it, there's sod-all you can do. Last year I also had to replace two alloys on my Octavia, where the rim had been bent outwards on the inside through hitting potholes. One was near the top of Box Hill, coming home from Bath, following other vehicles. Just after a slight bend, shadowed by overhanging trees, there was an almighty bang from the front of the car. I was doing 50 in a 50 limit, and the hole was about a metre out from the kerb. Didn't see it before I hit it, as I was watching other cars, and even if I had, there was hardly anywhere to go to avoid it. Andrewh is s stupid sanctimonious cock, and I truly hope he hits a nice big hole in the dark and writes off some nice expensive wheels and tyres. Arse.