bravohotel9er - MemberWe've heard the 'really really poorly paid' line on here before, you're wrong.
The pay is pretty reasonable. No, it doesn't compare well to Premiership footballers or investment bankers, but then whose pay does?
A reasonable comparison would be with police officers, teachers and nurses. The pay is on par with or better than those professions.
The pay of teachers, nurses and police officers are not comparable, so how can social workers be on the same level?
he means between 20 000 and 40 000 I guess
Very poor or even libellous article by the looks of it.
From the pic - 'middle class chav scum' anyone?
Having worked on child protection cases, and working closely with the police on Child protection cases, I would say it feels like there is a lot more to this story. Apart form anything else, there is a lot of paperwork that goes into removing a child in a case like this, the police would not do this lightly as police, as a rule, will do anything to get out of unnecessary paper work.
Like I asked, I wasn't looking for a 'view' as we can all read into it, but a thought from someone in the 'business'. I'd have thought that this case would have made it into your 'professional' magazines etc?
And I do support what goes on in Social Services (most of the time), with my ex-wife working in that area - its just this story just seems so wrong - and we all know how once you are in the/any 'system' its very difficult to get/stay out.
"100 neighbours". Where did they live? What sort of area is it?
I've no idea what my neighbours do- I just say hello and they say hello so can not vouch for them in anyway if Im honest.
Yes there are failings in the system but not at every single level in appeals etc etc.
The pay of teachers, nurses and police officers are not comparable, so how can social workers be on the same level?
Basic newly qualified pay is probably similar, but to say any of those professions are not poorly paid is a manipulation of the truth.
When the govt adverts state "earn up to........£k", they're either talking an average, or they cherry pick the top end of a payscale, and in any of those careers most staff will never see the top of the payscale.
Strangely enough, i would quite like to become a social worker - it would be one hell of a 'career' change from manufacturing.
However, a lack of suitable qualifications & i suspect the wrong emotional mentality is a pretty big barrier 
I liked this bit "it was so shocking that up to 100 of them were ready to stage a public protest, until being banned from doing so by social workers and the police."
Is there no end to the powers invested in Social Services these days?
"100 neighbours". Where did they live? What sort of area is it?
Hmmm... Dog breeder...100 neighbours, I wonder if they rounded down?
Is there no end to the powers invested in Social Services these days?
Yeah, I had noticed that one too......made me chuckle 
MrsSwadey spent 15 years as a child snatcher - believe me, that article is a joke. It is a VERY hard and complicated process to remove a child, and the final decision is never down to just the social worker. As others have stated, the parents are given every chance even when most right thinking people would suggest that they don't deserve it.
And while I am sure there may have been cases where children were taken into care who shouldn't have been, I bet the self same "journalist" would be jumping up and down the next time there is another Baby P case - and there will be. No system is perfect or foolproof, and as MrsSwadey says each time they occur "There but for the grace of God...."
Tend to agree about the costs of adoption companies though - MrsSwadey has been investigating jobs with them as it will fit around childcare quite easily, and it is quite a lucrative option - so why can't councils do more of it in house and save the costs 
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