So I’m interested in trying the bib shorts as I’ve been told they help keep your lower half warmer in the colder mornings,Plus Scotland had its summer two months ago

My issue is having my stoma around waist height and most of the bibs coming up quite high and not fancying having to strip to the waist for “the call of nature”
Or am I best getting a good quality pair of pasldded shorts

Most are stretchy enough to allow a pee.

As wilburt says, they are quite stretchy. Not only do they need to allow you to pee, but also need to accommodate a variety of MAMIL guts.

Not that many top quality shorts without bibs.
The best I have found here are Endura FS260 and Gore Oxygen