brant - Member
Is it a hardtail? Tick.Nothing else to it.
Well, it's good to know you put a lot into your designs... 
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best steel frame hardtail
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if CEN means the end of light compliant steel hardtails I'm not sure if I'd buy another steel ht, weight and feel are factors for me
Agree and you dont have to be a competent/skilled-up rider to feel a noticeable weight difference either?! Especially true if you can be really physical with a bike to benefit from a stiff/stronger frame? Alot of question-marks there so don't shoot me
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The best frame is the one that fits you and the
way you like to ride the best.All on this thread are the best for somebody.
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glad to hear it cp!
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stonemonkey - Member
Lanesra - Member
Surely only 853 steel should be classed as pure steel, everything else is a poor imitation, imo
i disagree, plus how many complete 853 bikes are there
Just got a Genesis Altitude 20, 853 frame, complete bike £1100.
It is the best bike I've ever owned, but I have a sneaking suspicion that's because it's only a week old...... It may be a different story when it needs a bath.
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Best steel HT?
Salsa Ala Carte.
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well thats certainly given me something to think about. i do like the cotic frames but the on-one is such a good price..shame they dont have any in stock again!ill have to ponder on this and see if i can try a few out here and there.
cheersPosted 2 years ago # -
They always sell out for a good reason? Worth the wait IMO
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ok so not strictly steel, well not steel at all but it does have the absorption you're after.
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ok so not strictly steel, well not steel at all but it does have the absorption you're after.
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That jones thing makes the baby jesus cry it's so ugly.
Still rocking the Kobe. Now my only mountainbike. Worth waiting for a 2nd hand one if you can.
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now with Pike and Rampages
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Surely they could have made that Jones with less tubing/tidier? It looks like a shelf holding ti tubes collapsed into a pile on the factory floor.
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end of thread
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P7 love...
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This is a great thread. I'm interested in getting an inbred, but I'm worried that the 20" is going to be too small for me. Whats the sizing of the inbred?
Cheers
Andy
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It was also a 9 month old thread.
Do a search m8 and you'll find a lot more info (recent) on sizing. Are you a giant BTW ?
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You should get a NS surge.
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I'm riding a DMR Trailstar LT and it's great with 140mm Pikes on it
Head angle may be a bit steep for proper downhill but I like it for XC and jumping with a bit of milder DH thrown in.Rode it at Cannock last weekend and it was great, probably could've done with a slightly longer stem for climbing though, but that makes it feel less responsive for jumping so I haven't bothered to change it.
Only thing I don't like about it is that the seatpost is a bit thin at 26.8mm, means you can't run a dropper on it if thats your kinda thing.
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http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/itube/ibp.jpg
Wazn't an on1 fan but it is a vnice frame
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I'm with _tom_ above ...ride a Trailstar 09 singled with swopouts and RS forks...sings all day on the Chase!...ride an older trailstar for the commute...happy as Larry!
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I wanted the newer one with swopouts but found an older LT version for £100, feels great and if/when it breaks I'll probably get another haha. Had an older trailstar before this as well, white 100mm version!
Forgot to post the obligatory pic of mine! Here it is in jump mode (don't care what people say, I prefer longer forks for jumping), I've since added 2x9 and a front brake.
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I'm 6'2" and I've got 34 inch legs so would the 20" inbred suffice? I found the 20" kona explosif a touch on the small side. I like bigger frames because I'm doing a long distance off-road tour and I want a bit more comfort. The p7 looks ideal but new they are a bit pricey.
Andy
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I'm 6'1" and a bit, 31" leg and on an 18". 20" would be more than big enough for you I would have thought as the t/tube is long.
Here's mine set-up before final tweaks. It now has a 70mm stem (the one in pic is 100mm) and risers which makes it spot on for me.
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+1 for chunkypaul and the EVIL SOVEREIGN.
building mine at present.
END OF THREAD.
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Im 6ft 5" and ride a 20" 456. Maybe a little on the small side but its fine really!
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large soulPosted 2 years ago # -
I'm riding a DMR Trailstar LT ...
Only thing I don't like about it is that the seatpost is a bit thin at 26.8mm, means you can't run a dropper on it if thats your kinda thing._tom_: Gravitydropper makes 26,8 posts, check them out. Should be quite reliable product I think. I ride Trailstar mkIII with 130mm Marzocchi btw
Ola
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The best fitting bike I ever had was a 21" orange p7 from 2005. I like the feel the bike under me, especially seeing as I'm going to be doing a long distance off-road tour on it... on the on one sizing chart the top tube comes up slightly shorter on the inbred than the 20" caldera that I currently own (I had an explosif before that). The caldera feels a bit short (top tube length wise) + also a little cramped leg wise. I've got long legs and arms! Anyway, I'll keep my eye out. Some good bikes here but they all have a lot of seat tube sticking out. However.... saying all this I tried a 21" voodoo bizango and that felt long at the time. I rode about 12000km on the 20" explosif but it had adjustable stem and big risers on it. I think for long distance a bigger frame is better, but I don't want to overdo it. I think the Orange p7 looks really nice, personally. The inbred is also awesome, especially if they were to do one size up...
I'm looking for a frame with rack eyelets at the dropout, doesn't have to have v-brake mounts thought. This rules out the charge duster, the cove handjob, the dekerf frames. blah blah.
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There is only 13mm difference between the effective t/t length on the 456 and P7 and only 0.5 deg in the head angle with seattube angle identical. 456 is 2-300 gms heavier
Really comes down to is the P7 worth £300 more? in which case you are getting into Soul, R8 territory and other 853's ........Ho hum
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Totally off topic but Qwerty, where did you get that stand?
Cheers
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If you want a quality frame with rack eyelets, the Genesis altitude is always a good bet. Nice frame and available in a 21" size.
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You should get a NS surge.
Everyone should get an NS surge, then wire their doorbell up to a small hammer type device so it strikes the downtube.
I swear its the most tuneful bike frame I've ever come across.
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do kona frames come up smaller? Aha, so kona's top tube measurement is effective top tube length whereas the on-one is a measure from centre head tube to centre seat tube I think?
Andy
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_tom_: Gravitydropper makes 26,8 posts, check them out. Should be quite reliable product I think. I ride Trailstar mkIII with 130mm Marzocchi btw
Didn't realise that, they only seem to sell the 27.2 version on CRC etc. Gravity dropper probably wouldn't lower the post enough for anyone on a 16" frame though (I'm guessing), as the seat would need to be quite high anyway and GDs can only go down 4" I think?
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