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  • avalanchesuspension.co.uk
  • Onzadog
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    Saw on faceache this morning that Avalanche will soon be available in the UK. I’ve had two sets of 36s and a DHX sorted by them before. It wasn’t cheap but the difference was amazing.

    Do we know any more about this news? When might it be? Who’s behind it? I’d imagine in would be a well established independent suspension tuner who’s take up something like this.

    FunkyDunc
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    If I hadn’t seen your posting history I would have said it was a stealth add 😆

    mikewsmith
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    Could just be a partnership to get the stuff in and out, but I guess it’s all built to a formula so a case of putting the bits in the right order based on the spec sheet. Sorted my original 34’s for less than a Pike and from the bounces I’ve had on others certainly no worse. Highly reccomended as an option for fine tuning.

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    Onzadog
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    Wonder if, whoever it is, will be at the bike show to chat about it?

    Yetiman
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    That’s great news, I love my Avy stuff. Stendec has a history of servicing their shocks so I wonder if it will be them?

    Onzadog
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    Facebook has mentioned someone called Dave if that helps narrow it down.

    Yetiman
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    Dave Garland is the Stendec guy so it sounds like it could be them.

    mikewsmith
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    Nik O’Brian lovely Dave used to service stuff in UK in the past now it’s official 🙂
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    Steve Edwards
    Steve Edwards Dave who?
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    Nik O’Brian
    Nik O’Brian Stendec’s Dave Garland
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    Steve Edwards Cheers.

    Probably from the page you read

    chrisdiesel
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    I heard great things about DAVE and stendec but he would never reply to an e mail regards upgrades or mods that I wanted doing?

    Onzadog
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    Seems it’s not Dave. Could it be Loco?

    robhughes
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    Hope it is.. 😀

    dhrider
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    Its Sprung Suspension Workshop Ltd

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    kimbers
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    But of a coup for Jake

    I need to get my avy ssd shock serviced and stendec seem to be off for the summer

    Onzadog
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    Are you sure it’s him?

    dhrider
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    Well Sprung Suspension bought the domain name just over a week ago so id assume it’s def them…..

    https://who.is/whois/avalanchesuspension.co.uk

    P-Jay
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    That would be great news, I bought a Yari over a Lyrik with a view to get an Avalanche damper and FOD isn’t far for me, I prefer to talk to people face to face about stuff like that.

    fr0sty125
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    This is only going to end badly for my bank balance…..

    Onzadog
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    Cunning bit of detective work. I’ve not used him myself but I assume he must be more than capable if he’s being trusted with the avalanche name.

    Tom_W1987
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    This is great news – I’d been looking into an Ohlins TTX because it’s a more refined design than the DHX2 – it’s not the same like most people think. The CCDB and the X2 rely on the valves for the main compression duties, whilst most other shocks are a monotube design that rely on the shims of the main piston with any adjusters being there for fine tuning.

    The TTX is a halfway house

    ^^^ That, is nothing like an X2.

    it’s a twin tube design but it relies on the main pistons, with the valves being there for fine tuning. Why is this good? Because it results in less spiking and a more refined switch from low speed to high speed compression paths – more support in the midrange allowing the high speed compression to be run lower, allowing the shock to blow off more.

    As that article points out http://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Rear-Shocks,35/hlins/TTX,12627#product-reviews/1385/expand the oil has three potential paths to take during compression.

    Unfortunately, when I asked Ohlins whether they could tune me a shock for my bike – their answer was basically “we don’t give a shit, talk to specialised”. As if Specialized will tune me a shock for their main rival – Ohlins do not give a **** about the MTB world, they’ve got some products that were bankrolled by Specialized but beyond that – they don’t care.

    Turns out, Avalanche took note and have a modification that effectively turns it into a TTX…..and I’ll get proper support hopefully when it comes to getting it right for my bike. So Craig is going to get my money now.

    fr0sty125
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    That’s quite interesting regarding valves.

    If I’m thinking correctly FOX X2 and CCDB Air have

    Main piston compression shim valve (appears to be a light shim), A high speed compression poppet valve with bleed shim, high speed rebound poppet valve with bleed shim, low speed compression metering needle valve and a low speed rebound metering needle valve.

    The TTX however has.

    A main piston compression shim stack, a rebound metering needle and I assume rebound shim stack. Low speed compression metering needle bleed valve, high speed compression adjustable valve (unsure what type this is).

    Is this in affect saying that shim stacks if appropriately tuned perform better than metering needles and poppet valves?

    Also I find it pretty cool that the CCDB Inline has individual poppet valves for HSC, LSC and HSR in such a small package only the LSR is a metering needle.

    Tom_W1987
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    Is this in affect saying that shim stacks if appropriately tuned perform better than metering needles and poppet valves?

    Yup.

    But I’m no suspension expert/fluid dynamics person – however a valve or bleed port is always going to offer the same level of oil flow, in spite of the shaft velocity isn’t it? Someone educate me!!!!! Where as shims can be tuned so that the compression curve is progressive/regressive – finer control.

    The way I’ve read it as well, is that the Ohlins shock effectively has three points – low, mid and high speed that can be tuned. Whilst, the standard CCDB and X2 only have two points really.

    The Ohlins shock is cool, shame Ohlins don’t give a damn – and won’t partner with someone like TF Tuned in the UK.

    RickDraper
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    You can get the Ohlins for any bike now unless I’m mistaken?

    https://www.ohlins.com/product/ttx22muniversal/

    mindmap3
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    The Ohlins shock is cool, shame Ohlins don’t give a damn – and won’t partner with someone like TF Tuned in the UK.

    TF were looking into it. I got chatting to a chap who worked for them when I was at FOD a few weeks ago and he was pretty confident that they were going to take them on as a supplier and UK service centre. Hopefully that will be true…I’ll probably get my TTX serviced in the winter when it’s not being used as much. Shame it’s a ball age to get it serviced as it seems pretty bloody good to me.

    Tom_W1987
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    You can get the Ohlins for any bike now unless I’m mistaken?

    https://www.ohlins.com/product/ttx22muniversal/

    They are, you can even buy them directly from their site – but it still has a limited adjustment range like the Specialized model and Ohlins couldn’t be bothered to tell me whether the shocks you can order from them are a “one size fits all” type of shock – or whether they have different valving setups for different bikes. I don’t want a shock with 7 clicks of rebound adjustment unless it’s actually been setup for my weight/bike.

    On that basis I won’t buy one unless TF Tuned are going to start working on them.

    RickDraper
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    They are, you can even buy them directly from their site – but it still has a limited adjustment range like the Specialized model and Ohlins couldn’t be bothered to tell me whether the shocks you can order from them are a “one size fits all” type of shock – or whether they have different valving setups for different bikes. I don’t want a shock with 7 clicks of rebound adjustment unless it’s actually been setup for my weight/bike.

    On that basis I won’t buy one unless TF Tuned are going to start working on them.

    You want a elevensix then. Nothing else (maybe a FastSuspension holy grail might?) has the fine range of adjustment that shock has.

    Nobeerinthefridge
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    How much are we talking for an avalanche upgrade on say, a monarch then? Ballpark?

    Onzadog
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    I think my DHX was about £250. Pretty sure my Fox 36 cartridges were about the same each. Ballpark of course. And the fork cartridge was mail order, didn’t even include a service.

    Tom_W1987
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    950 quid Rick – versus 750 for a DHX2 with the avalanche mod – or a custom valved TTX if TF Tuned start doing them.

    Are you in the know, ridden it or the Holy Grail? My Brain BSOD’s when I think about spending 950 on a shock.

    RickDraper
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    I had a elevensix on my nomad. Its a beast of a shock, I would still own it now if it would have fit on my Mondraker Dune, it was just too big for the opening though.

    What you are getting is a shock with two totally independent compression circuits that can be set up for whatever feel you want, e.g. one super plush for DH and one firmer for climbing. It also gets any updates fitted when its serviced and can be made to fit on any bike for iirc just the cost of the parts.

    Its so good I think I am going to buy another one for my Transition Patrol.

    LAT
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    What about one of avalanche’s shock offerings? I’m not sure how they compare with the shocks you are looking at, but they will build it to your requirements.

    I imagine it would be cheaper than the others and soon you’ll be able to have it modified and maintained right here in the UK.

    With regard to the cost, I suspect the Avalanche products will have at least the VAT added to the US price, if not import duty, too. Though I’d love o be proved wrong.

    kimbers
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    I got a dhx with a blown piggyback for 50 quiver and then got avvy to SSV it for another 200 including postage, obvs Brexit now makes that more expensive

    Nobeerinthefridge
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    Avalanche damper getting fitted to my monarch next week. Canny wait.

    LAT
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    Nobeerinthefridge – Member
    Avalanche damper getting fitted to my monarch next week. Canny wait.

    Is this being done in the UK? I can’t wait either.

    Onzadog
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    Love to know how the monarch upgrade goes. Mine has a horrible two set feel to it at the moment which I though was the air spring balancing but Craig seems to think it might be the calving in the monarch damper. I assume the new UK bod will have the kit and the skills to tell me which it is. No point putting a £250 damper in a shit air can.

    Euro
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    Unfortunately, when I asked Ohlins whether they could tune me a shock for my bike

    lol, did you really ask them that?

    kimbers
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    Jake is at the WCs as a mechanic for Caty Kurd at the moment

    Has there been an official announcement from Sprung?

    Tom_W1987
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    lol, did you really ask them that?

    Well, whether they would do it. They could of course – but they wont. Why sell a shock as universal, put the ohlins brand name to it and then offer a product that is less tunable than your competitors such as Cane Creek and Fox whilst offering nothing in the way of various stock tunes like BOS and Rock Shox do? Aswer – they don’t care. They are going to sell shocks to muppets because of the ohlins name – off the back of Specialized funding – and make a bit of cash out of that – that will be all there is to their venture into the MTB market.

    Although I know someone who knows the Ohlins tech over at Specialzied UK – so I probably could get it done if I wanted.

    Onzadog
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    Any news on this yet? Anyone know any more?

    P-Jay
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    Onzadog – Member

    Any news on this yet? Anyone know any more?

    Keep checking the site I guess, it’ll be all over social media too when it’s ready to launch.

    mildred
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    I’ve got an avalanche tuned RP23 with the boost valve replaced with a shim stack; it works great & really suits my bike (Nicolai Helius AM). However, the modification cost coupled with the shipping costs + various taxes makes it too expensive for what you get. Mine also blew an internal seal within a few weeks and sending it back was unfeasible.

    Like others have mentioned – I could never get in touch with Stendec (never answered phone & never answered emails) so I spoke with Loco. I sent it off and spoke with Simon who told me that this modification is actually very easy & something he can also do. He fixes the seal, gave it a service & it’s back to feeling great. Loco – highly recommended.

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