Any chiropractors in the house.

So need some advice and i realise that its difficult to diagnose online.
Doing a fitness session on Friday which included med ball slams. On the last set I slammed the ball and caught on the rise about chest height. as i did i felt a massive pop in my lower spine, probably about 6 inches above my arse. Needless to see there was a reasonable amount of pain. Have been struggling all weekend and have been on diclofenic ( voltorol pain releif) and paracetemol but still get twinges especially on my left hip and just above.
Do i need to physio tomorrow?

Like your style there; Dear chiropracters, I’ve hurt my back should I go and see a physio 🙂
I would say yes see a physio (and not a chiro)

Why would you be asking a chiro if you needed physio?

I had 5 sessions costing 200 quid with a chiro, it did nothing…your choice.

Depends how restricted you are. Have you been ice packing it every hour or two and elevating your legs when resting?

Depends how restricted you are. Have you been ice packing it every hour or two and elevating your legs when resting?

There’s someone who doesn’t really understand RICE.

No. i’ve actually been to the beech and camped out on hard field. hey ho. of to the physo.

Wasn’t advocating classic RICE. I sneezed and sent my back into spasm yesterday, lying on the sofa with my legs on the arm is helpful, as is the icepack, the warm baths, the co-codamol, the gentle stretching and keeping (just) moving. Managed to sleep last night and woke up with the spasm released, but all sorts of pain and tension still there. Keeping the ice going 30 hours after the event is still helping. I’d say if the OP has been to the beach and camping it’s not too bad and he should be able to manage without a physio.

Hi Mooly, sounds painful & some professional advice & treatment should be sought. If you live/work anywhere near Redditch or Knowle get in touch my OH is an Osteo & Acupuncturist & I can certainly vouch for the relief as I also suffer from back pain occasionally after sports.

Physio = fully trained and qualified healthcare professional with at least a degree. Under peer review and licensed by their professional body.

Osteopath/chiro = charlatan. The use of osteopathy/chiro is not based on science, and there is little evidence that osteopathy/chiro is effective in treating any medical condition.

“Dear Plumber.
My cat has swallowed some rusty nails.
Should I go to the cinema…”

Is kind of what this reads like…..!

DrP

(That’s not to say seeing a PT won’t be a good idea, it’s just a bit of an odd OP!)

http://www.chiropractic-uk.co.uk/For-Health-Care-Professionals-Research-12-mi.aspx

No there’s no evidence at all that chiropractic works for anything 🙄
And we’re all ill-educated con-men, only in it for the money.

I’ve heard it all before and no doubt will keep hearing it. All I’m interested in is the opinions of the people that I keep getting better and that they recommend their family and friends.

OP – It’s your choice who you see – there are rip off merchants in all the health professions (physio included). Just make sure you find someone who has been recommended and isn’t out to fleece you. Generally a few treatments + recommended flexibility and core strength exercises should see you right depending on what’s going on.

Went to physio with Back pain. Came home with fancy stretches. 2 weeks later still in pain when i run. No improvement.
When to osteopath , came home and told to rest for further 2 days. Since rest ive done 28 pain free miles and a track session in the 6 days since my visit.
Not sure how she fixed me Because the massage was very gentle but i am fixed and that’s all i care about.
Edit, My injury was after being mugged from behind by my 8 yr old. the op injury sounds worse than mine, i basically just couldn’t run without back and hip pain after the incident.

iME chiros do a lot of focussed popping, felt like it did something but in reality for me didn’t do a lot.

A good sports massage worked much better. Once the swelling starts to go, get a decent going over. It should help the other muscle groups help cope with the burden of any damaged bits. Or thats how. It should work.

Chiropractic is based in vitalistic pseudo-science; or to give it its technical name, “bollocks.” Though to be fair, conventional medicine has a pretty chequered history too; a lot of these “alternative” therapies gained traction simply because they killed far fewer people than ill-informed doctors and surgeons of the day. In the 21st century though, you need a bit more knowledge and evidence behind a given treatment than simply “less likely to kill you than trepanning.”

Some (most?) modern chiropractors borrow other therapies of varying repute to put into their treatments, acupunture and so on, so it’s not all bad news. These may or may not be effective to varying degrees, but it always seemed a little disingenuous to still call this “chiropractic” rather than a bottle of vitamin pills and a nice back rub. (And frankly, if I wanted those things I’d see a dietician and a physiotherapist.)

No there’s no evidence at all that chiropractic works for anything

You’re right to pick up on that wildly incorrect statement as there’s evidence that it may be efficacious beyond placebo for lower back pain.

we’re all ill-educated con-men, only in it for the money.
…
All I’m interested in is the opinions of the people that I keep getting better and that they recommend their family and friends.

Got it first hand there folks. All he’s interested in is people’s opinion and more custom. Who needs evidence when anecdotes are far more reliable.

Got it first hand there folks. All he’s interested in is people’s opinion and more custom. Who needs evidence when anecdotes are far more reliable.

You really are a nasty piece of work. I mean seriously, what has made you such a bitter and twisted individual?

You know absolutely nothing about me or the way I practice. I’m the first to admit there are chiropractors out there who are just interested in making money (I’ve worked for a few, but not for long!) but I am not one of them. I do not use scare tactics, bullshit, unnecessary treatment plans or aggressive marketing to get my patients. They come to see me because I get their family and friends better. Nearly all of my clients are recommended – I very rarely advertise. I’ve had plenty of anecdotes of physios, GPs and surgeons who in my opinion are verging on negligent but I still acknowledge that most are good, decent healthcare professionals.

What do you do that’s so special? Super hero? Brain surgeon? Or are you just another pathetic keyboard warrior who knows **** all about real practice? I’m genuinely interested. I got into chiropractic because I experienced back problems first hand – a full on disc prolapse. And while the medical ‘experts’ had their thumbs up their arses for 18 months, it was a chiropractor who finally sorted me out. And still does 10 years later when I have flare ups. Placebo? “Bollocks”

Carry on with your vitriolic crap if you like – I’ve heard it all before. As I said – it’s the patients that matter to me.

On reflection, that last comment was a low blow, and I apologise unreservedly for for that. I stand by the rest of the post though.

You’re right in that I know nothing about you, or your practice, though my comments weren’t aimed at you specifically. I do know quite a lot about quackery though. I’m happy to discuss this further if you can form a paragraph without resorting to ad hominem, perhaps you could enlighten me? Serious question, I’d be interested to know for instance what you claim to be able to help with, and what other procedures you also offer. If my understanding is wide of the mark then I’d like to know. Presumably you’re a mixer? I’ve yet to come across a straight chiropractor in the UK.

I accept that in other medical professions – hell, in any profession – there are good and bad practitioners. Though one would hope that in any medical or pseudo-medical profession there’s sufficient legislation in place to prevent malpractice. Chiropractic has had to do a lot of back-pedalling about its back-peddling lately, which does seem to have stemmed a lot of the wilder efficacy claims that were being made.

As a physio, I think that there is a lot of stuff that chiropractors do to a better standard that physios. There is probably a lot that osteopaths do better than us too. We just happen to be the ones that are more accepted by the establishment and used by the NHS. There are muppets and charlatans in all walks of life, physio, chiro and osteo are no different to any other part of life.

Mulv1976 – seems to be one of the less dodgy chiropractors and has given a fair amount of good advice to people in the time they’ve been on here.

^^^ what he said.

As with anything it’s down to the ethics of the practice. In reality after a few sessions they should be able to advise you if it’s going to do anything for you. sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. However, some individuals will insist the patients come back as they like a full book, which has no benefit to the patient at all and will tarnish the reputation of the industry to all effect.

Used a chiropractor to treat whiplash injuries on 2 occasions. Prior to this I attended the local hospital for physio and after 8 sessions I was told that i my have to live with the pain as there was nothing else they could do. Politely told the Physio that I thought she was talking shit and that I wont be back. 3 sessions with a chiropractor and I was sorted. I’m not saying that physios don’t do a great job as I have had good results with different injuries, however, my limited experience with a chiropractor has been excellent.

I’ve seen osteo’s, chiro’s and physio’s in my time and was lucky that they all seemed good at what they did. I guess my chiro was part osteo/physio to which helped (some neck cracking but mostly gentle manipulation, massage and stretches/exercises to do). The weak link was always me not doing the stretches/exercises consistently…

oooh, Cougar got pwned!

and then:

I’ve yet to come across a straight chiropractor in the UK.

he goes casting further dispersions!

Let’s not get all argumentative gents or else the Mod’s might get upset… 😉

My back went in 1991. I had drove home, got out of the car and it went, no warning.
Went to see an osteopath about 3 times and it eased but I was skint and never went back.
From then on, it would go about 3/4 times a year, resulting in 3 days on the couch and another week or 2 before it eased up.
I had been referred by my doctor to see a few different specialist that didn’t help a lot.
Went to see a chiropractor, at the start I went every week and then it dropped to once a month. After a while without any flare ups I stopped going and within 6 months it was back.
I was recommended a retired physio who worked from home and off I went, he was superb, I recon he was sacked from the nhs as he was a sadist, but he has pretty much sorted me out.
Turns out I have SI joint problems and as long as it gets adjusted regularly, (been doing it myself for the last 4 flare up free years) it’s fine.
So according to my experience-
Osteopath – was to gentle.
Chiropractor – very effective but reliant on return visits.
Sadistic physio – sorted but painful!