Hi,
This might be a long one, so get a cuppa.
Back in January, I bought a new frame, brand new, direct from the manufacturer, we’ll call it “Company X” as I don’t want to name and shame just yet. I’d appreciate anyone who knows me not naming them either, till this saga has run its course anyway.
Anyway, end of January 2016, bought new frame and built it up. Rode it for a couple of months, managing a massive 40 miles till I noticed the rear wheel was out of line a LOT. I contacted Company X and they agreed the bike was misaligned and mentioned that they had improved things since mine was made and agreed to replace anything that was out of line, I just had to let them build the frame. This took several weeks and I was told I could continue using it. I raised with them that it will put more stress on other items (rear shock was my worry) but was informed it would be fine.
A month or so later, the new frame was ready, so I sent the frame off. I’d managed another 20 miles in that time. 4 weeks later I chased to find out where it was, they hadn’t built it up yet and I was informed they would get on it right away. I kept chasing every week for another 3 weeks before I got it back. Bear in mind this is a 1-2 hour job at most and then pack it up and send back.
So all in I’d been without the bike for 6-7 weeks maybe more, it was a while ago now!
I then went through a bad period and in and out of hospital and couldn’t ride. When I finally did get back to it in September, I managed another 30 miles in total before realising the shock was showing significant amounts of wear on one side of the shaft. I contacted Company X again and was informed that I could send it back to them for them to assess. I reminded them of the previous issues and decided to send the whole frame back as there were still some concerns I had around the straightness of the new frame. On taking it apart, big chunks of thread came out the BB shell. It was a new Hope BB installed and the thread damage was deep inside the shell, so definitely NOT caused by incorrect BB installation as all threads further out are unmarked.
Anyway, frame was sent back on the 19th October and 5 weeks later I still hadn’t heard ANYTHING. So I chased again and ended up in a back and forth email argument that the shock was fine and the wear was totally normal! and the BB threads were damaged by the BB installation. After nearly 2 weeks of arguing (I got the “I’m a suspension expert” response..) , I convinced Company X to send the shock back to SRAM for assessment and sure enough, they replaced it as faulty. Company X’s response till that point was that it was perfectly normal behaviour. I had at this point asked for a refund a few times due to their continued inability to deal with a simple warranty issue or even admit there was a problem.
Now, I don’t know about you lot, but I’ve never worn a shock shaft EVER over thousands of miles and certainly not after 90 miles..
So now its December and I’ve had a frame for nearly a year and its been with them for 2 months this time.
Last Wednesday it was returned to me, loose in the box and had punched through said box and has been damaged. I contacted them again and informed them of the issue and was met with more “its not my fault, must’ve been the courier” despite there being sod all packing around the frame to protect it and stop it moving in the box.
At this point I have once again asked/demanded a refund. In 11 months I’ve been without it for 4 months, Its been made badly originally, made slightly better but still badly 2nd time around and the customer service has been utterly, mind blowingly terrible. 4 months to deal with 2 warranty items that should have been turned around no questions asked within a week each time and I still don’t have a product that I can use after all this time. Not to mention being out of pocket, so can’t even buy a replacement.
My request for a refund has once again fallen on deaf ears and I have now had to threaten small claims court which has also been brushed off.
I should point out that I work in the industry and know how customer service should be approached. Sadly Company X badly needs some lessons in dealing with its customer base.
Stupidly I paid with BACS so my ability to reclaim money that way is not possible unless anyone knows any better?
So, am I being unreasonable in asking for a refund?