well..... Ive found out the hard way that you shouldn't run 140mm Pike's on a 2008 Cove H.J. Blasting through a rooty section at mabie yesterday.. I suddenly heard a metal tubular crunchy sound... disaster!! Ive killed my Cove, that's 2 frames in 2 months 
hopefully I should get my Tracer back this week
Just ring along? Or crashed into tree?
If your riding that hard get a frame that can take it.
i didn't crash I was riding, Ive just got rid of my chameleon Cu's it was beating me up, thing is.. I don't think I ride it that hard.
I'll drop you a line Craig.
Bloody ell Craig! thats a nasty one, they,re bloody strong frames too. thats not good, r u without a bike now? U are a frame breaking legend, u should get a full on downhill bike for XC 
Bloody ell Craig! thats a nasty one, they,re bloody strong frames too. thats not good, r u without a bike now? U are a frame breaking legend, u should get a full on downhill bike for XC
I broke a frame or I've broken a frame
Honestly...
Blimey 
2 frames in 2 months! How'd you manage that, are you 30 stone or something? and/or really hitting stuff hard and fast?
brant - MemberI'll drop you a line Craig.
I was just about to say,sounds like you need a Blue Pig
They'll take 140mm pikes, that's what's on mine, and blue pigs *rock*
see the design of that gusset did a good job - not!
curtis freeride is what you need, and with free frame repair for life you cant go wrong
thats a nasty one, they,re bloody strong frames too.
Really? They used to have a repuation for folding like that a couple of years ago, and even I managed to break one JRA with a 100mm fork on it. Are they that different now?
what a bummer Craig.... you sure you weren't overdoing the jumps down @ Mabie skills area yesterday 
craig, what size do you ride.....
bigdavevw - alright dave.... I'm getting my rear linkage sent out to me this week so I will have my Intense finally back up and running by the weekend
Kojaklollipop - for the record I'm 6ft and 15 stone..lol as for hitting things fast and hard... at the time where it "broke".... I was getting stuck in at what felt like reasonable pace
davy-g - I never made it to the jumps lol
hi Ton - i ride a 19"
craig got a couple of 20'' frames lying about.
have a word with brant about the blue one, he will know what i am on about.
what have you done on the frame previously, maybe it was weakened by previous antics and then the roots finally killed it (if thats possible)
surprise, surprise another folded handjob.
bloody strong frames too
Get a Pig
teatwosugars had one and broke it, I think.
IIRC Cove wouldn't honour the warranty cos he had it resprayed and that could have affected the structural integrity of the frame.
I run a Cove handjob with Pikes. Lasted a year fine so far of hard trail riding. However its small(15 1/2") so the top tube and downtube make a nice "T" joint.
cheers ton, i think a 20" is just a bit to big for me
Trekster - hi john... i'm looking into one ;O)
yhm (again)
not good Craig!! Still you get to buy a new frame so it's not all bad....
Ouch! That sucks Craig. Didn't last you long did it?
Wonder what sort of abuse the previous owner had given it though. I certainly won't be riding mine with 140mm forks now anyway!
Craig bending his frame:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gingerfox/sets/72157622654244140/
"surprise, surprise another folded handjob"
Yup, can't possibly have had anything to do with running forks that are too long for it can it Give me a long enough lever and a place to stand...
140mm fork on 100mm fork frame? yep that will kill it!
At least it didn't snap in half downhill when you were riding.
I hope Cove don't read this if you make a claim.
>Yup, can't possibly have had anything to do with running forks that are too long for it can it
Fair enough, but the other two I've seen fold weren't using long travel forks.
forge197 - that was.... a new bike so to speak, i'm looking at a couple of frames.... a pig or a HX1
kit - must be a record of some kind I had it 3 weeks lol
zaskar - its a 2008 version which can take up to 130mm forks, I naively thought another 10mm wouldn't make much of a difference but it was always at the back of my mind.....
I bought it second hand and got it re-powder coated, I'm sure a bit of everything had to do with it's death
What other frames have you killed?
thats a frontal impact crumple no?
Brant - many thanks
mike-at-dialledbikes - I cracked the rear chain-stay on my Intense Tracer VP a couple of months ago, I have no idea how that one happened
Craig - I'm on it - will try to get it off to you by the end of the week.
sorry didn't realise that was a nearly new one....oops
forge197 - na wasn't a new bike..... very much second hand but new to me
This post is worrying me. Surely 10mm extra travel on a fork cant make that much difference? I thought Pikes axle/crown wasnt that long despite being 140mm. I thought other forks like 130mm old style Marzocchis were longer in axle/crown length anyway.
I certainly am not the smoothest rider and sometimes land a little heavy(I weigh 82kg) but no sign of damage on my bike yet. Maybe the frame had already suffered when you bought it? Anyway maybe i need to by a dialled Bikes Alpine? I dont want the Cove HJ snapping on me!
Good grief, remind me to never go near a Cove.
Well oddjob I think he is broke as hes broken the frame
Handjobs are skinny frames for skinny riders.
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