Kross 853 steelie.

Nice. What are the numbers?

Say what now? More information please.

Looks like this

http://www.kross.pl/en/2017/trail/smooth-trail

Looks nice but a bit short and steep for me.

Nope, I have recently got my HA down to 63.5 unsagged and would never go back to as steep as that.

Yeah there is nothing wrong with the frame but I’m riding around on a 65 HA and I’d not be wanting to go steeper again.

Are we not getting into chopper territory with some of these head angles now 😆 63.5 degrees is proper slack!
Unless you’re only ever heading downwards, then it’s going to feel like your steering is always flopping about.
My DMR Bolt is at about 66 with a 160 fork, and any slacker would just feel weird.

65 on both my 29ers, doesn’t really feel any different to the 68 it started out at.

The HA on the bike in the link that Thepodge put up looks slacker than 67deg.