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1. mwleeds - Member

   Bugger! I was so close to reserving one, but thought waiting til after xmas and grab a test :cry:. I've been trying to decide between a soul and a blue pig (PA would also be right up there if they had any!)for weeks. It seems the decisions just been made a whole lot easier :D.

   Perhaps someone 'in the know' would like to comment on whether or not more HT frames are sold at this time of year. If so then why have three very popular british manufacters had low/no stock issues over the first(and potentially last winter) months. Perhaps I'm being a little unfair. Small companies have to buy in relatively small batch's which will get sold. It's just frustrating having money burning a hole in my pocket with no one to give it to Still it's not really a bad position to be in!

   Posted 2 years ago #
2. Northwind - Member

   Get a black one like a sensible person.

   Posted 2 years ago #
3. tang - Member

   get a black one. however if you really want an orange one march is a great time to get one. my maiden ride on my black soul was on march 1st 3 1/2 years ago. i sure as hell knew it would be a truly great summer on the trails. still riding it.

   Posted 2 years ago #
4. mike-at-dialledbikes - Member

   mwleeds - Premier Member
   Perhaps someone 'in the know' would like to comment on whether or not more HT frames are sold at this time of year. If so then why have three very popular british manufacters had low/no stock issues over the first(and potentially last winter) months.

   MW, I'm in the know about Dialled Bikes but not much else! It's sod's law really when stuff is fully stocked or not stocked at all, rather than any master plan based on sales patterns. For Dialled Bikes, finances and space dictate when more stuff is ordered. Prince Alberts are on order and will be back in stock around Spring 2010.

   Posted 2 years ago #
5. metalheart - Member

   harrumph.

   more of a dilemma would be a soda or two kidneys...

   Posted 2 years ago #
6. mr_stru - Member

   I'm really not sure what all this very steep at 100mm stuff is about. I run my soul at 100mm and it's fantastic. Really nippy through tight singletrack and seems perfectly fine on everything else. I've not run it at longer travel but don't really feel inclined to as it's great as it is and I quite like nippy bikes.

   That said, I imagine if you do a lot of steep stuff you'd want it a bit higher at the front but I'm also not sure it's really the bike for that sort of thing anyway.

   I'd wait for the colour you want though. And March is when the nice weather starts so you'll have less getting the new bike clarty angst.

   Posted 2 years ago #
7. ianpinder - Member

   damn you people, because of this thread i just bought a prince albert. luckly it was only 180 instad of a 400 cotic.

   Posted 2 years ago #
8. Northwind - Member

   Soul's not "very steep" at 100mm, it's fairly standard for a 100m frame really, slightly slacker than many. Remember Cotic's figures on the website are always sagged not static, so it's 70/73 but with 25% sag.

   Posted 2 years ago #
9. ampthill - Member

   Based on 120mm forks?

   Posted 2 years ago #
10. ononeorange - Member

    Orange!

    Posted 2 years ago #
11. GaryLake - Member

    Based on 100mm ampthill.

    Posted 2 years ago #
12. sparkingchains - Member

    I'm pretty certain it says on the Cotic site that Cy runs 100mm forks on his Soul.

    Have you tried calling all the shops that sell Cotics for an orange one

    Posted 2 years ago #
13. kelvin - Member

    Cy runs 100mm forks most of the time on his Soul, although he has had 140mm Thors on there quite a bit for Peak District stuff I think.

    Angles shown on site are based on 100mm forks, and more precisely :
    "Most 100mm forks are between 475 and 480mm these days,
    and because everything's got so linear in the air springs, I've not
    used more than 25mm sag for years, which gives around
    450mm a-c and 70/73." - from Cy

    Would it be useful to have diagrams and angles on the site for typical 120mm and 140mm fork setups (plus 160mm for the BFe)?

    While it might arguably make some sense to look at angles on an un-sagged full sus bike, as it's going to compress at both ends, I feel it's not very useful with hardtails.

    Posted 2 years ago #
14. Hooter - Member

    At your weight, I would go for the Soul not the BeFe. I'm 13 stone and found the BeFe a bit harsh for all days rides (a really great bike otherwise tho)

    Posted 2 years ago #
15. ampthill - Member

    Thanks for the replies. It is all quite confusing. That makes the Cotic abit slacker than the Genesis Altitude which has the same angles, but based on a 120mm fork 25% sagged.

    (but not by much Cotic 75mm from fully compressed, Altitude 90mm from fully compressed)

    Posted 2 years ago #

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