Bigface0_0...just out of curiosity, try disassembling & reassembling the tail cap. (A pair of scissors in the two holes & unscrew - all comes apart easy enough). I always carried a back-up, but as you say, being plunged into darkness in the middle of nowhere is verging on dangerous at the least.
If you've still got it I'd be happy to take a look at it.
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900 lumen P7 torches from DX
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They're just torches, only they actually have worse functionality than these torches because the batteries aren't easily replacable. They have nice mounts but that's it. Yet people happily spend a packet on them. It's bizarre tbh.
It's hardly bizarre, a decent helmet mount, light weight and a much longer burn time would explain it. People spend vast amounts on drivetrain components that are near enough identical other than weight, a couple of hundred quid on some decent lights seems reasonable.
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It's hardly bizarre, a decent helmet mount, light weight and a much longer burn time would explain it.
Two out of three isn't bad. The diablo actually has the same burn time as the P7 torch (not surprising given it is using very similar technology in a very similar package).
Joe
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They're cracking. Here's a photo my mate took of his on the low setting
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NO WAY thats a P7...
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There's goin' to be hell to pay when troutie sees the above pic
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ive got a Deal Extreme bike light, and its all i need.
put it on helmet, battery in camel back, jobs a goodun
trouties seems a bit daft to me, you might as well just go riding in the day?
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"It's hardly bizarre, a decent helmet mount, light weight and a much longer burn time would explain it. People spend vast amounts on drivetrain components that are near enough identical other than weight, a couple of hundred quid on some decent lights seems reasonable. "
Cobblers frankly. The Diablo IS just a P7 torch in a different shell, it has the exact same burn time as an equivalent DX torch, except that you can't change the battery so it's much less useful. It's also heavier, not lighter.
The Joystick can manage better burn times due to putting out massively less light. But a 5-mode P7 torch can beat it on both burn time and output in the middle settings.
The mounting is nice. But you can fit a DX torch into a Joystick mount
Or, you can use something like my Patented Red Postie Rubber Bands mount, which is a wee bit more stable than the joystick mount and lighter, and more adaptable. (I'll just not mention the part where it's miles harder to fit it well than a Joystick Ooops!)
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Bigface0_0 - Member
"I got mine, used it once in the cold -4 and the switch stopped working, never to work again... Its now enjoying its new life in the Bin!!!"
Why on earth would you throw it in the bin, they come with a full warranty
Mine have a good few hundred hours of use now and still both absolutely good as new, even the one I dropped down 3 flights of stone steps and the one that I smacked into a tree at glentress"like I said the thing that put me off was it just stoppped working in the middle of no where and I rode back to the car in the pitch black."
Any light can fail, so going out with only one is a bit daft, even the very best won't do much lighting if you manage to bang them off a rock or rip out a cable. But even if they were as unreliable as you say- they're not- you could buy 3 for the price of your Vision 2, never mind the Hope 4. Fit 2, if one fails you still have more light than the Hope one can manage, and a spare when you get home!
of course, any one of these lights is better in use than a Hope 2 never mind 2, despite being 1/3rd the price and having twice the burn time (for the P7 bikelight)
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Mounty
Got mine from lumilite took about a week for delivery it's been ace well pleased
Beerbelly (AKA Beermonsta)
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WERE CAN YOU BUY THEM IN THE UK PLEASE GUYS?do i need a charger with the light and mount or does it all come with the torch??
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I sell them over here, the flashlights that is.
Ive got 4 in stock with everything you need.
It'll cost more than DX, but you get full warranty from me if you have any problems, and the light is tested and checked over before you get it.PM me if interested.
To anyone else ordering from DX just now, dont forget its Chinese New Year and DX wont be back to work till the 20th, so stop getting annoyed if they dont reply to you!
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Mollski you can buy the P7 Bike Torch (bastid) from here in the UK as a complete unit (lamp, battery, charging unit and mount):
http://www.lumilite.co.uk/I'm unaware of anyone selling the P7 'normal' type torch in the UK, other than ebay. If you buy the 'normal' torch you still need to buy batteries (not a std UK type), a charger for them & a mount:
TrustFire Protected 18650 Lithium Battery (2500mAh 2-Pack Blue) - other higher rated batteries are available.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.05790
Digital Li-Ion 18650 Battery Charger
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.06105
Universal UK Travel Power Adapter Plug
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.02709
As for mounting, lot of ppl DIY it or theres the 2 fish lock block.I have to say the our orders came through in 10days without issue and so did my Bastid from Dealextreme, not sure there would be a back-log/delay on the normal type torches but haven't ordered anything from them since last Oct so don't know for sure.
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thanks guys wicked
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lightman i will have 1 please
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z1ppy...you dont necessarily have to get the adapter, the charger has 100-250v input so you can lop off the 2-pin & wire on a 3-pin.
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mollski, you've got mail.
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Cobblers frankly.
Cobblers? And then you concede all 3 points? FWIW I have a joystick and a p7 torch, I have no trouble seeing why people opt for a joystick over a P7 as a helmet mounted torch.
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Ha Ha nice one but that is the wrong picture this is the bastid on low
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trout...pah.!!!
P7 torch on low setting...
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ROFL at takisawa2. Brill!
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z1ppy...you dont necessarily have to get the adapter
I know but as a first time buyer he might not be aware & it only a pound.
pypdjl - Member
FWIW I have a joystick and a p7 torch, I have no trouble seeing why people opt for a joystick over a P7 as a helmet mounted torch.You must be one of the few then, all my M8's who owned joysticks, bought a P7 and flogged their JS on ebay. Not that I'd suggest the DX P7 is perfect.
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Mounty
Got mine from lumilite took about a week for delivery it's been ace well pleased
Beerbelly (AKA Beermonsta)
Alright mate, cheers for that, I wasn't sure about the site...but they are good aren't they!
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I bought a P7 torch off ebay, um probably 18 months ago now and a cheap handlebar mount. Havent been out on a night ride for ages, but it always did the job! My mate has a hope 900 lumen thing and sure the P7 wasnt as bright but mine didnt cost over £200!!
What i dont get though is that set up has 4 batteries!!! And says 3 hours?? I have used my torch on full power for over 2 hours nearly 3 and it still didnt go flat. Yeah it was a bit dimmer then started but not overly noticeable!
Id definitely recomend a P7 for anyone wanting to night ride on a budget! Only issue i had with mine is the weight of the torch on the cheap mount would keep causing it to rotate on bumps!! Sorted with a bit of rubber though.
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I bought a P7 light dual mode from Ebay about 2months ago.
Not sure if mine is faulty but its not as bright as my Hope Vision 2 Which is claimed i think at 400-450 Lumens...
I would say its closer to 250 Lumens maybe 300.
It is well made and i got 2 batteries but i'm a bit gutted its not as bright as i thought it would be, i have emailed the guy from ebay 3 times without response, the torch seems to be working fine and the contacts etc seem to be good but there's no way my one is 900 Lumens not even close to it...Posted 2 years ago # -
lightman - how much we talking?
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Colin@rush, I would say that is definitely faulty. A P7 is far brighter than a Joystick, which I believe is rated at 240 lumens.
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You must be one of the few then, all my M8's who owned joysticks, bought a P7 and flogged their JS on ebay.
Not in my experience, I know loads of people with joysticks, and no-one else apart from me with a P7!
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HarveyStedham: Sounds like the torch I am after which one is it?
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BEDMAKER is thaat really a p7 you got there or are you haveing a laugh?
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Mollski
Neither bedmaker or the alledged mate know where those woods are .
it is a beam shot from one of my Liberator lights that was Used by those nice people at Lumilite pretending it was a P7 bastid type beamshot.
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THANKS TROUT some silly folk on here
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pypdjl
"Cobblers? And then you concede all 3 points?"
You must have read some different post? Actually I pointed out exactly why torches are better in every way than a Joystick or Diablo, other than the mount, but then pointed out that you can fit a torch into a joystick mount anyway so that isn't an advantage.
I've ridden with a Joystick, it was just about adequate, I can see why they used to be popular. But my mate who uses one regularily complains that when I'm behind him, he can see more by my lights than by his own. He now has a P7.
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