So everytime you get a carrier bag for goods in Wales from today, wether its paper, recycled plastic, or even cloth, you have to buy it, the money will go to charity, and the shops have to account for how many bags they use and where the money went.
Oh and shops can charge more for bags than 5p.
Great for the environmnet, but so sad for the junk food eating mases.
Should be a pound. Lets make a real difference
is it only me that uses carriers to line my bins & then contain all the shite in the wheely bin so there's not a stuck on layer of toxic sludge at the bottom?
When they stop giving out bags I ain't buying bin liners, so my bin's gonna stink, be full of maggoty goodness & be a (bigger) nightmare for the boys on the wagons
Oh, and I'm gonna get a macerator for the sink too (council says don't compost due to rats, so here's to lower refuse weights, blocked sewers, flooding and eutrophication. 
Carrefour tried removing plastic bags altogether a couple of years ago and so many customers changed supermarkets that Carrefour had to drop the price of recycled bags from 5c to 1c. Good news for Sainburys in Oswestry and Chester, less good for Wrexham.
surely that is a good thing.
here in ermany plastic carrier bags cost ~50c, sometimes €1 depending on size of the bag.
lots of people here have a dedicated shopping bag. we've got a stylish cloth thing the GF sister got from thailand.
one big difference though is that in the UK people tend to do one big shop a week, whereas here we go shopping at least once every two days. and we got by foot. in the UK i think i almost always drove.
here kitchens are generally smaller (more flats than houses) and there are a lot more, yet smaller supermarkets everywhere (three with a five minute walk of where we live) unlike the UK. however UK supermarkets beat german supermarkets handsdown in terms of range of products (can't get rice here other than "boiled rice" unless you go to an asian place in the city), choice and opening times.
i guess boxes that fold flat would be better in the UK. more practical getting in and out of the car....
germany is relatively clean. don't often see carrier bags hanging in trees. hardly ever see a discarded plastic bottle. all plastic bottles here have a 25c refund on them. there are armies of poor OAPs collecting them in town.
Yeah but you can't hang yer washing outside yer house.
LiDL's has bin charging for baygs for years.
It's complete greenwash.
There's nothing wrong with plastic bags
good idea, BUT. on the condition that they get rid of those crap "biodegradable" ones.
i read an interesting article this month. The jist was, due to the lack of appropriate second hand bags available now that the damn things last precisely half way to the car, people are having to BUY pedal bin liners.
defeating the whole chuffing exercise.
charge for them buy all means, it will help me remember to pick one up BEFORE i go shopping, but FFS they are NO use if they fall to pieces in your fingers.
They do contribute to little though.
I bet you'll find that they will still supply you with free plastic bags too.
Stupid annoying idea. B&Q did it for a while. I went in and spent about £200 on all sorts of stuff. I clearly needed a bag to carry it out, they wanted to charge me 5p, adding that it was for charity. I was incredulous, I'd just spent a big pot of money there and they still wanted to charge me 5p. Even if it is for charity, I think I can decide which charity I give to , how much and when. I was so pissed off for so long that a couple of days later, i dropped by on the way home, picked up loads of little packets of stuff from around the shop, went they tried to charge me 5p for the bag, I told them I wouldn't buy it and so could carry the stuff and walked out.
LiDL's has bin charging for baygs for years.
So do Aldi and M&S. In Morrison and Waitrose near us, you tend to have to ask for bags. I noticed pretty much all supermarkets in France charge.
B&Q near me don't even seem to have bags, let alone charge for them.
We used to pay 5p for bags when I was a kid in Saverite. 5p was a lot more money in the early 80s.
germany is relatively clean. don't often see carrier bags hanging in trees
Yeah cos you get shot if you drop anything. Or, for a first offence you get scolded by miserable old ladies.
in Germany you see crap graffiti everywhere though. And big statues.
picked up loads of little packets of stuff from around the shop, went they tried to charge me 5p for the bag, I told them I wouldn't buy it and so could carry the stuff and walked out.
Well done for sticking it to the man. I imagine the checkout staff who have absolutely no control over the company policy really appreciated your stance.
tis true... most graffiti is crap. there are a few places near me you can go and see decent stuff. in fact there is some decent stuff to be seen from the train going into town.
my favourite piece is in a posh area of Muninch. it says "Sorry about your wall". brilliant.
ASDA have been doing the 5p "bag for life" for ages now. 5p per bag and if it splits, take it back and get another one. Oh and they don't burst when carrying beer home.
Im going into Walesland soon, can somebody lend me some bags,
We have it here in car-centric Oz. Once you get in the habit of remembering the bags, it's really not that much of a pain.
Also, I doubt a macerator would harm the environment much more than the traditional waste from the same source disposed down the sewer about 24 hours later on, if you catch my drift...
CharlieMungus - Member
Stupid annoying idea. B&Q did it for a while. I went in and spent about £200 on all sorts of stuff. I clearly needed a bag to carry it out, they wanted to charge me 5p, adding that it was for charity. I was incredulous, I'd just spent a big pot of money there and they still wanted to charge me 5p. Even if it is for charity, I think I can decide which charity I give to , how much and when. I was so pissed off for so long that a couple of days later, i dropped by on the way home, picked up loads of little packets of stuff from around the shop, went they tried to charge me 5p for the bag, I told them I wouldn't buy it and so could carry the stuff and walked out.
seriously? or are you a troll? i cant believe anyone would be so stupid/petty/childish for nothing..
Hate it when you see people filling their trolley with plastic bags each with 3 items in. They then take it 10 meters to their big car which they drive a few miles (or maybe round the corner).
picked up loads of little packets of stuff from around the shop, went they tried to charge me 5p for the bag, I told them I wouldn't buy it and so could carry the stuff and walked out.Well done for sticking it to the man. I imagine the checkout staff who have absolutely no control over the company policy really appreciated your stance.
They probably had the control to just give me a plastic bag. I'm sure they aren't audited. See if you'd thought for a bit you might have come up with that too. Unless you happen to work on the checkout in B&Q. Do you?
seriously? or are you a troll? i cant believe anyone would be so stupid/petty/childish for nothing..
Petty, perhaps but you'll have to explain why it is childish or stuoid.
Should be a pound. Lets make a real difference
Agreed. If you're going to discourage something do it properly.
Petty, perhaps but you'll have to explain why it is childish or stuoid.
I'm taking a guess that it's because not seeing the damage you're doing to the environment when it gets binned later (assuming you don't recycle it, which in fairness you could) is stupidity, and seeing it and not realising you could either re-use a bag or carry it to the car in a trolley is childish ignorance of the consequences of your actions?
(Incidentally I sometimes get plastic bags as I always forget my re-usable bags so I'm guilty too, but more often than not I'll find a way to clutch everything without a bag if physically possible)
I don't think the supermarkets charging for bags will cause too many problems. Plenty of people already bring their own or will pay the 5p per bag like some supermarkets already charge.
It'll be the 5p on your McDonalds paper bag or 5p in HMV when you buy some cds or 5p in Evans when you buy some inner tubes.
Hopefully it'll stop checkout assistants asking me "Are you sure?" when i tell them I don't need a bag.
I'm taking a guess that it's because not seeing the damage you're doing to the environment when it gets binned later
Oooh good! Are we doing guessing now? Right I'm taking a guess thatbyou are killing dogs by slitting their throats, then leabing them lying in the street. Now, that's just cruel and dangerous. You must be an idiot to do something so irresponsible.
(assuming you don't recycle it, which in fairness you could) is stupidity, [quote]and seeing it and not realising you could either re-use a bag
or carry it to the car in a trolley is childish ignorance of the consequences of your actions?[
Fungus - your time is valuable but you won't spend 5p on it?
You are an idiot.
cynic-al - Member
Fungus - your time is valuable but you won't spend 5p on it?You are an idiot.
My choices and the right to make them are also valuable to me.
You're a moron.
I live in Wales and can't say as it bothers me. When I go to the shops I'll just take a rucksack and a couple of those bags for life. If I forget I'll just take the 5p hit!
CM - so you need to me to explain to you why its childish and stupid?
i think you've just answered the question with your last two responses..
you can drive, so that makes you older than 17..strange as you come across as less intelligent than a 2 yr old (and that may well be an insult to all two year olds..).
grow up.
Usually he seems OK - must have forgotten the meds.
CM - so you need to me to explain to you why its childish and stupid?i think you've just answered the question with your last two responses..
I responded in kind. I struggle to see how my last two responses have any bearing on my actions at B&Q.
So, yes please explain to me how it was childish and stupid, if you can.
You grow up
you can drive, so that makes you older than 17..strange as you come across as less intelligent than a 2 yr old (and that may well be an insult to all two year olds..).
also please explain how comparing some one unfavourably to someone else might be an insult to that someone else?
If I said you were uglier than cynic-al or Brad Pitt, i would think that was an insult to either of them. Nor if i said you were less intelligent than Ian Castro or Edward De Bono, i would expect them to be insulted. On that basis, the most intelligent people would constantly be insulted as they are compared favourably to others. Can you explain that one to me? As if to a child.
cost 1 euro here per bag....
outrage lol 
It's a silly idea until everyone does it. Then it becomes the norm, and will be better for it.
They've been trying it in Engerland for ages, but in a typically half-assed English way, so if you go to the supermarket you now have to ask for bags rather than help yourself to them. So it's no greener in the long run, you just get a brief twinge of middle-class guilt to go with your shopping.
I've got 'bags for life', and they will last for life, because I can never remember to put them back in the car. If I didn't have an option, I reckon I'd start remembering pretty quickly.
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