456

inbred

If you bought it from On-One, is there not a 456 sticker on it?

It seems doubtful, even for them, that they’d sticker-up the wrong frames.

Ah well, have you enjoyed riding it? That’s the main thing.

I think/thought the first lot of 456’s were just stickered up with inbred decals?

Mine was

Mines is dark blue too. The top tube is a larger diameter than on the inbred I had before it and the wishbone meets the seat tube in line with the top tube unlike the inbred.

The geometry of the current 456 on the website is nonsense. It always was, and got worse when I left.

Send me a picture of the seat tube area, and I’ll tell you. But it’s very easy to spot. As has been said – the 456 has a wishbone that really “runs into” the top tube with a straight weld line on the join of the top tube and wishbone.

The inbred doesn’t – it has more a wishbone welded to the back of the seat tube.

Hopefully this might make things a bit clearer. Then again, maybe it won’t… 😕

Exhibit A: the wishbone on my 1st Gen 456 in “That Blue” (16″ frame) – joins the seat-tube level with the top-tube (almost like a continuation of it)

Exhibit B: the wishbone on my old non-slidy “standard” Inbred (also 16″ frame) – joins the seat-tube above the top-tube

My second gen std Inbred was like the white one above FWIW.

But it’s a 456 Summer Season… It was conceived to give a slack head angle without having to use a long fork. If i recall correctly, a standard 456 with a 140mm fork gives a HA of around 67 degrees. A 456SS with a 100mm fork gives a HA also about 67 degrees.

Brant – As a man who knows a thing or two about the 456, can you confirm this to be the case? It’s something that i read a long time ago. Since then (and since you moved away from On-One) they have been sold and ridden primarily with 140mm forks, which somewhat defeats the object, surely? It seems that the majority of bike riders/builders simply assume that a bike with a slack HA needs to have a long fork installed on it.

The Summer Season was indeed based around a concept of “let’s make a short travel bike that handles like a bike with a longer fork, but without a high BB or too much suspension squish”.

It was a very quick rework of the 456. The 456 being a very quick rework of the inbred. Neither of them had too much thought applied but worked well.

The Summer Season literally was “make that, but with a 2deg slacker head tube and a PG down tube”.

hisdog is correct though – It is just a bike and we’ve fitted long and short forks to them. If you look at what I did “after” the summer season, you can see the lineage to the Blue Pig, etc…

MrsB bought her 456 SS as a complete bike which came with the 140mm fork , it’s a 14″ frame so looks distorted in the pic . on the first fork srvice she had the travel lowered to 125mm mainly because it was a bit of a pig on climbs . she felt it rode better all-round at 120mm .

HTH

I reckon CheesybeanZ 456 looks ace, I bet it’s loads of fun too.