Rangeys are awesome in the snow if driven properly and with proper wheels and tires on. Will almost certainly leave the rest of the Chelsea tractor mob in their wake!

Looking at the road I would say they we’re not driving it properly (read to fast), driven properly it takes a lot more snow than that to stop one. 22’s or not. Looks Horseshoe pass like to me.

Someone learning the difference between traction and grip the hard way.

“Looking at the road I would say they we’re not driving it properly (read to fast)”

I used to say things like this all the time – until I wrote off my 4X4 the other day travelling under the speed limit, at a speed that felt safe given the conditions, on a road that looked fine, new tyres, plenty of miles under my belt.

I agree that those low profile tyres seem odd on a 4X4 but you never know. Just saying.

Ok what is the diffrence between traction and grip

Stupid Tyre Fail, couple that with over confidence due to driving a 4×4 and the outcome is assured.

Ok what is the diffrence between traction and grip

I’ve an AWD car, it has great traction and will climb pretty much any snowy hill around here, even on nearly-bald tyres – but going down the same snowy hill there is bugger-all grip…

There is a huge difference between “felt” safe and “is” safe as you’ve probably learned the hard way.

Traction in the way I referred to it implies the ability to get going from a standing start. Grip is the maximum amount of speed the contact patches can tolerate and still be controlled.
One is a measure of power management the other speed management. A quick look in the dictionary would have helped the doubters.

Army truck fail…

Skoda 1, Army Truck 0 by ritcheyp20, on Flickr

he was probably using the phone whilst driving a tricky road in poor conditions………. now that would be bad 😉

if i had a quid for everytime my frontera was laughed at when i bought it id be a rich man …..

but ill tell you what – with all terrain winter rated tires on the back its a wee beasty while remaining refined(compared to the 90) inside at the same time.

ive pulled a few cars out of fields this year and the piece de resistance …..

driving out of the track to my house on the day it was snow and high wind = drifting snow some 3 foot tall….

meet a neighbour in his range rover reversing back along the track , winds his window down and says ” its not passable tel ”

Not being adverse to a bit of digging with my shovel and having tow straps for the rangey to pull me back if needed i carried on
straight road – deep powder snow , just got the speed up and went drift bashing using the nudge bar to its full potential- rangey following behind- every drift i hit would result in powder flying over the windows and roof + slow the car down a few mph. Great fun. started off at 50mph and by the end of the dirt track- about a mile was strugling to do 20mph with the wheels just spinning but JUST keeping forward motion going.

Or to put it another way: 4 x 0 = 0.

You are not alone.

Followed an MX-5 last week in pretty snowy conditions. Definitely broughte h wrong car for eth journey. Big wheels, elastic bands for tyres, 5mph on a straight road and big slide on anything resembling a corner, finished off with a complete 180 while trying to negotaite a mini roundabout at less than 5mph

friend has a frontera that he’s raised and thrown on some beefy tyres. got it for 65quid and its still going strong after 6 years with no work needing doing to it, passes MOT every time despite him having dented every panel, ripped a door off and used it for towing all the range rovers and landys out from the fields on a very regular basis 😀 its a fantastic car!

Anyone who tries to start a conversation with a car needs to be viewed with suspicion.

This does seem to be the prevailing attitude. There’s always idiots out when the snow comes down. That’s a given every year. But the vast majority drive fairly sensible. Unless of course they’re in a 4×4. Where the vast majority, in my experience, drive 6 feet from your bumper. I don’t care what you drive, that’s not a safe stopping distance in the dry, nevermind 3 inches of snow.

You hand someone some clever technology and it seems they no longer feel the need to use their brains.