Ok first things first before certain people take things personal about a bike manufacturer I’m not the worlds best rider, I’m Joe normal. However I can spot very small differences inbetween tyre brands, spacer positions, shock bushes etc.
I think what Horas reply will be that the new one can have a zero stack lower headset cup. Meaning that you have have 5mm lower front end for the same HA.
The zero stack headset REALLY helps. It may be only a slight drop but in conjuction with all the other subtle angles it made the bike feel lower/stabler.
And is there anything else stopping the 2010 from feeling like the 2011 onwards?
All the other subtle angles. Tweaks here and there make a bike feel better. Turner(?) I think said he liked the bike the way it was but market forces (trends) of slacker etc made him make the changes. I think that was disingenuous to riders in general.
I do wonder if Horas 2010 didn’t feel as good as the 2011 because of the offset bushing, putting the shock into mid stroke. Any comments mark? Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Fitting offset bushes helped. I fitted into both eyelets. The WC headset to me was/is overpriced. Its not high-end and its quite low quality for the price. I personally feel it was a waste of money. The bushes felt better. I felt better with a quality standard headset in. It gritted up and was well, for me no better than a FSA Pig in quality. Not bad but a Pig is £21?
Going over to the new frame I kept offsets in for a while. It was even better with those in. As I said I’m a nervous rider but a sorted frame really really helps me blossom.
Naturally gifted riders can rag a odly angled Intense down anything with speed/even get on with. I’m not one of those. I need a sorted frame.
I’m not part of the slack gang. The C456 is ace as it is.