Managed to pickup a set of 2ndhand uturn lyriks, haven’t had a big day out on them yet (they are on a Pitch) but lots of twiddly knobs to play with 😉

The Sektors are a lighter, not quite so stiff Pike. The Lyriks Mission Control damper is supposed to be very good.

I’m surprised you don’t like the Fox 32 Talas so much you’re prepared to swap it. It might be that it’s the Talas part you don’t like and swapping that part out for a regular Float cartridge might improve things considerably. I am not sure that that can be done economically, but it’s worth asking Mojo. The Float 32 150 is a great fork and yes, the small bump capability is not as good as the Lyrik (more on that in a mo), but it’s more than good enough and the fork is superb on bigger compressions.

The Lyrik is excellent and if you can get it for £500 or less new, is a bargain (this is how much I paid for mine). The Mission Control damping is really very good indeed and the lock out with blow off is actually pretty good for what it is (although if you use that, then you’re going to have even less small bump capability than you currently have). The low and high speed compression damping on the Lyrik gives a good range of adjustment and you can run a decent amount of LSC without it compromising the forks bump performance (not that small bump performance shouldn’t be inhibited unduly by LSC as the small bumps should still trigger the HSC circuits and allow the oil and therefore the fork, to move in response to it)

But the Lyrik is very heavy; around 2.5kg on my Park scales and moving to a 36 Float will save over half a kilo. The 36 Float I now run performs as well over rough ground as the Lyriks, are stiffer than the Lyriks (even thought they are lighter) and still have useful LSC damping adjustments, but not HSC.

I have no experience of the Sektors but I do have a set of Pikes that I like very much, but again, they are heavy (as heavy as the Fox 36 Float).

Have a think about whether the set up problems you’re experiencing are really about the small bump performance or perhaps something else. One of the tuners will be able to help you and it’s worth exploring that route before you add on around 850g of weight by switching to a Lyrik, good as it would be (oh also know you’d need to ensure you have the right spring for your weight).

They will convert to a 150mm Float too, and the cart. can be tuned as well.

Lyriks should be better damped with Mission Control damping than the Motion Conrol of the Sektors

Is said, “the absolute bollocks”, not “absolute bollocks”. For clarity, they are awesome. HTH.

I got my Lyrik U-turns from Merlin pre christmas for £429. Not used them in anger yet but feel………erm……very……..boingy.

(Any Mag editors reading this, yes I am available for freelance work)

tricky, the issue is (small bump) is most likely to be the Talas air spring, did the shop do a full service of all seals and fluid in the talas air leg? Coil will make them feel better also a cart. re-tune will improve the fork as well.

Del, yes but you need to replace the damper cartridge which will be quite exspensive.

I’m saying that between the Fox Float 36 RLC I have now and the Lyriks I had before, the Fox is a better fork based on:

It’s over a pound lighter
It’s stiffer
It’s high speed compression damping is better than the Lyriks

So for what I want it for, it’s a better fork but it’s not as ‘plush’, whatever that really means.

Ultimately the performance has to be measured in terms of grip and control. The 36 I think gives better control than the Lyrik in high speed, big it situations where what you want is to maintain the attitude of bike rather than pin a turn.

The Lyrik as a coil fork might be a smidgen more sensitive to force input and therefore give better overal grip when you’re leaning the bike over in a turn, but ultimately, the margin where that extra grip exists, it likely outside of my riding parameters; certainly outside of what’s needed to get the bike down the hill fast; I’m not going to know if the gap between my and whomever else I’m riding with is 20 seconds or 25 seconds so I’d rather have a lighter stiffer fork.

OP – you should give LoCo a shot at the fork. Sounds like he can get it doing what you want without the weight penalty of the Lyrik.

I do 2011 Marz. stuff too mail for prices 😀

tricky – no they don’t….

Had this on my Pikes but I now realise I don’t miss it!

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=62252

£90!

That has to be an error, but isn’t it the case that even if it is, they still have to honour the sale?

When if the Lyriks don’t turn up….

I bought some coil 150mm Sektors recently from CRC, 10% promotion, plus a voucher, plus Topcashback made them very attractively priced 🙂

Only had one ride on the 456 so far, but very nice, supple, smooth, plenty stiff enough for me.

And I haven’t even looked at the settings on them, fitted and ridden.

Very happy, especially given their cost.