http://singletrackworld.com/forum/tags/gisburn en-US Wed, 30 May 2012 01:14:06 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/left-my-bryton-by-the-bike-wash-at-the-dog-partridge-on-saturday-7th-april#post-3670835 Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:33:20 +0000 chris_db 3670835@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Don't suppose any good person out there found my Bryton 50 by the bike wash outside the pub at Tosside did they? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-beginner-ride-pics#post-2357542 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:07:30 +0000 simonfbarnes 2357542@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.bogtrotters.org/show_album.php?album_id=1132"><img src="http://www.bogtrotters.org/rides/2011/5mar/DSC_0668.jpg"> click pic for more</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.bogtrotters.org/44832"><img src="http://www.bogtrotters.org/rides/2011/5mar/DSC_0751.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="http://www.bogtrotters.org/44842"><img src="http://www.bogtrotters.org/rides/2011/5mar/DSC_0826.jpg"></a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-will-it-be-ok-for-kids-this-new-year-we#post-2141061 Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:01:18 +0000 MadBillMcMad 2141061@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Is there still enough ice up there to make it too dodgy for kids ?</p> <p>They are a reasonably competant 10 &amp; 13 but I would not want them to be hitting ice. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-887083 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:49:17 +0000 rockitman 887083@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Grumm, I actually like Gisburn for the exact reason you mentioned.</p> <p>Nearly all my regular rides (Win Hill, Mam Tor, Innerleithen, Whinlatter etc.) are full of big hills that I plod up followed by great descents.</p> <p>I rode Gisburn for the first time last weekend and absolutely loved it. As there were no big climbs to knacker me out I was able to really push myself all the way round and felt like I was really going for it.</p> <p>I think they&#39;ve done an abolutely wicked job with it. Really looking forward to going back soon. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-886960 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:23:10 +0000 grumm 886960@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>My main problem with Gisburn is that I like to grind slowly up a big hill, then have a big long descent. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>The topography of Gisburn means that&#39;s not going to happen, but I think they have done a good job with the land they have. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-886921 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:15:39 +0000 Cheeky Monkey 886921@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><em>Cheeky Monkey<br /> Hope you don&#39;t mind, I put your name forward to Martin Colledge as a point of contact for help and advice on building a pump track at Gisburn. </em></p> <p>Feel free, happy to help. We&#39;re on our second now (not including the laying out we did for the STW one).</p> <p><a href="mailto:chairman@singletraction.org.uk">chairman@singletraction.org.uk</a></p> <p>Always worth getting the &quot;bible&quot;:</p> <p><a href="http://www.leelikesbikes.com/ebook-welcome-to-pump-track-nation">http://www.leelikesbikes.com/ebook-welcome-to-pump-track-nation</a></p> <p>Tells you a lot of what you need to know. McCormack&#39;s book deals more with building them of dirt which is fine if you live somewhere with low rainfall / less mud / less bikers with knobbly tyres <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> Over here I think you need to go a bit more &quot;hardcore&quot; with your construction otherwise it can wear down too fast. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-878045 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:56:00 +0000 2hottie 878045@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The more feedback the better. Most of us who help build the track are riders ourselves and as such have an idea of what will and won&#39;t work. With so many centres around it is becoming ever more important to try new ideas instead of just laying a trail down. The idea of flow is important and is taken into consideration when building a new trail, as are other factors, such as fall zones and run off points as well as drains and bridges. All of which takes time to talk through and build. I am a big fan of natural trails yet I do enjoy a blast round a man made route. I find too many &quot;features&quot; can kill the flow of a route more than a badly designed corner for example. The trails at Gisburn are a work in progress and I&#39;m proud to be involved. I know I am constantly coming up with ideas for sections when really I should be paying attention in lectures and so on. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-877657 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:45:56 +0000 Burger 877657@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Opinions are useful. Sometimes the way opinions are expressed can grate, but as long as no offence is caused even irritating opinions might be valid. Taking Greg’s comment that the route was boring in isolation appears harsh, but he does at least recognise it as an OK xc route. Comparison with the rich riding choice of the Peak district might seem a little meaningless, but perhaps throws up some interesting questions. Just what is it that is so very enticing about natural trails? Possibly it’s the length of descents, or choice of lines on wider paths? Perhaps that the surface will be changed at every visit with the passage of weather and traffic? Maybe it the liberty to follow a map, or local knowledge, rather than slavishly chasing from one trail marker to the next? Should trail centres try to ape nature? I’m sure I don’t know, but I’d be surprised if many riders turning up to Gisburn, knowing it to be a man made forest trail, could be too disappointed with what they find. Judging by the overflowing car park on a sodden Sunday morning, word would appear to be getting round that this is a place worth a visit.<br /> Having only ridden the newer trails once, my views are pretty close to those of ChatsworthMusters. Some tremendous bits, some bits which seem to needlessly interrupt the flow, and others to make up the distance or link the better sections. However I saw it as a work in progress, with great potential. It was with that in mind that I turned up on Sunday as a fresh volunteer to do just a little to move the project forward. Having helped once, I’m sure I’ll do so again. I can see now better than before how my concerns are already being addressed and also the enormous effort put into the existing routes. So keep the opinions flowing but, my fellow riders, ask not what the trail pixies can do for you, but what you can do for the trails (with apologies). </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-877323 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:22:27 +0000 B.A.Nana 877323@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Cheeky Monkey<br /> Hope you don&#39;t mind, I put your name forward to Martin Colledge as a point of contact for help and advice on building a pump track at Gisburn. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-877187 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:51:35 +0000 Mugboo 877187@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>As always there&#39;s a &#39;relatively&#39; easy solution.</p> <p>If your not happy with the design then turn up, dig and have your say.</p> <p>If your not happy with the erosion then turn up and help fix it.</p> <p>Or alternatively, sit on your arse, mouse in hand and give everyone who is trying their best the benefit of your knowledge...</p> <p>This isn&#39;t aimed at anyone in particular, but many hands make light work. You can wait years for a small hardy group of people to sort it all or 100 people with the right supervision could sort it in no time!</p> <p>Maybe we are all becoming a little spoilt, the standards of Trails are so good and our bikes so capable that we need more and more impressive stuff to ride.</p> <p>(These are my views, not necessarily the Gisburn crew&#39;s) </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-876946 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:53:39 +0000 stumpyjon 876946@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The green bit at the top is phase 2 and is subject to funding, which at the moment is not there. I think Ed&#39;s right, Martin&#39;s main objective at the for the time being is stabilisation of what&#39;s already in. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-876683 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:27:05 +0000 tony_m 876683@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>ScottChegg - Member<br /> Is the top (green) bit on the second map open yet? Or is this were all the work is in progress?</blockquote><br /> No, AFAIK this section is to be built as part of Phase 2, though to be perfectly honest I&#39;ve no idea when this is due to commence. Maybe somebody who&#39;s paid a bit more attention than I have to the overall scheme of things might be able to confirm this... <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>The section we&#39;re currently working on isn&#39;t actually shown on the October 2008 map - it lies in the area of woods south of Hindley Head, and is intended to be a fun / challenging alternative to just trundling along the fire-road. We&#39;re hoping to have it finished by February, maybe sooner if we manage to get enough extra dig-days in. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-876538 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:38:38 +0000 Ed-O 876538@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Great that so much interest is being generated about the trails and that so many people are choosing to come and ride there.</p> <p>The next priority at Gisburn is to repair and maintain the areas that have eroded with the bad weather we&#39;ve been having and with the numbers of riders coming along. This work as I understand it is currently being planned. The Rollercoaster section - Hully Gully needs repair particularly because the surfacing used, which is the natural substrate of that gully is a kind of shale which has turned to mud. It&#39;s a great section and with some work it will be back in a good state again. </p> <p>It&#39;s a work in progress. More trails are being planned. it&#39;s good times for us mountain bikers and it&#39;s just going to get better. Keep the feedback coming but remember that we are all on the same side here. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-876371 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:48:30 +0000 ScottChegg 876371@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Is the top (green) bit on the second map open yet? Or is this were all the work is in progress?</p> <p>Haven&#39;t been since the summer, but might be tempted back for some new bits. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-875826 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:33:10 +0000 Cheeky Monkey 875826@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Having spent an awful lot of time and effort building Stainburn and being very familiar with the &quot;developing&quot; nature of trials (and the fact you can&#39;t please all the people, all the time) I won&#39;t comment much on individual bits of the trail. Sunday was my first visit and I was unfit plus the weather was cold and soggy, not exactly &quot;showcase&quot; conditions <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>However, what seem like siginificant sections have taken a huge battering and are rapidly deteriorating into quagmires. I can&#39;t really point to them as I don&#39;t know the trail but e.g. bits leading to the crag / slab etc.</p> <p>Other sections were lovely.</p> <p>I think the place will suffer badly from its popularity (what an oxymoron) without a significant second injection of cash / load of volunteer time etc. Having seen the quarry I think they&#39;ve got a fair bit of material <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>Design and construction is always a learning experience and I&#39;m sure the guys involved are taking that in all the time. Good luck to them and congratulations on the successes so far <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-875748 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:10:21 +0000 stumpyjon 875748@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Chats - I know what you mean about the rocks in the top section, I know they were very deliberate and understand why they are there but on balance I&#39;m not sure I would have included them. As for funding, yes the top loop took the lions share, apart from the two sections approaching the car park everything else has been built by hand and only materials have cost.</p> <p>Thankfully most people seem to like our hand built bits. We are slowly removing fireroad from the bottom loop so it should get better. Don&#39;t forget it&#39;s very much phase 1 at the moment. There are plans to extend the top loop and remove a lot of extra fireroad.</p> <p>To be honest I&#39;m just pleased it&#39;s all generated so much interrest. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-875676 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:50:10 +0000 ChatsworthMusters 875676@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Can&#39;t help feeling that a small number of bits of Gisburn are designed purely as an obstacle course. I&#39;m thinking of the approach to the highest bit. (That&#39;s the second section after the pub) There was a complaint on here last week that rocks were being bypassed. I had a good look on Saturday and it&#39;s true they are. But, the rocks just seem to have been dropped on the trail in the hope that we will ride them. Doesn&#39;t seem very well thought out. Also, there are a few sections of rock garden which completely knock your speed, then there is an upwards slanting rock, with a drop off at the top. Speed is needed to ride the rock/drop off section, but speed has been lost on the approach. It may be OK for mtb gods, but most of us are just ordinary blokes.</p> <p>If one is allowed to criticise the course designer - this style has been seen in other trails that he&#39;s designed. I get the feeling that too much is being crammed into too short a stretch, then the rest of the course is comparatively &quot;easy&quot;. The staircase on the bottom loop is excellent, as is much of the sweeping singletrack . Of course it&#39;s an XC course, but to my uneducated eye it looks as if the top loop has taken the bulk of the funding, and everything else has suffered for it.</p> <p>I&#39;m left with the feeling that this trail has been designed to fit nicely on a CV somewhere. Good bits to show off to prospective clients, but large bits are there just to make up the distance.</p> <p>I&#39;m available for public execution on Thursday morning!!! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7/page/2#post-875608 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:34:07 +0000 neil853 875608@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve riden pretty much every trail centre in the UK now and the only thing missing at Gisburn like stumpyjon says is sustained decents, but thats not a criticsm at all its just the way it is. I think Gisburn is fantastic and they&#39;ve cleverly used what elevation they have to create some really nice sections of singletrack that have turned out to be really technical. to get it right and clean the whole loop you have to be a confident/fit rider. No its not an all day epic but for what it is, its well worth a trip. I&#39;m luck enough to live 30 minutes away from it and night ride there every week.</p> <p>I think some comments are especially harsh as a lot of it has been made by hand with design on peoples direct input. I have the upmost respect for what they have done and should only be commended on it! <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-forest-7#post-875568 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:19:57 +0000 stumpyjon 875568@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Still not sure what you were expecting though. I&#39;ve not ridden many trail centres but I&#39;d say a lot of it is on a par with Afan or Cwmcarn except for the sustained descents, that said there is still a lot of pedealling at those two centres to get to the descents. It&#39;s definitely better than Llandegla. There is good riding in the Peaks but you&#39;ve still got to connect it up which surely isn&#39;t that thrilling. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/gisburn-short-movie#post-875458 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:46:20 +0000 lowey 875458@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I enjoyed that.</p> <p>I take it that it was filmed a while ago... trails were in a damn sight better condition than they are now.</p> <p>That Volunteer section is just ace. </p>