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can of pink salmon. expiry date Dec 2009?


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:01 am
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Dont like salmon but anything else I think I would.

I used JackDaniels BBQ sauce on my burgers last night that expired in Feb 2008.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:05 am
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hmmm? Salmon? Really are you that desperate? How far is the shop?


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:07 am
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Give some to the cat. If the cat doesn't drop dead then its ok.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:12 am
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Wouldn't touch it. Tinned salmon is minging enough, but out of date tinned salmon.... bleurgh!


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:14 am
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Jeeze what's wrong with people?

It's in a tin. It's vacuum sealed at the point of packing. Therefore the contents can last for years without degrading. It's less than a year out of date. It's perfectly safe.

Sell by/use by dates are put on everything to satisfy over-zealous food standards officials (and so we use stuff up fast/throw it away and buy more stuff). I've eaten stuff that's years out of date, with no ill-effects. Had some pasta recently that was from the mid-90s. It's dried, sealed food. It would take decades to break down and become uneatable.

Pfft. I don't eat most things until [i]after[/i] their use by date. I prefer to let things get a bit 'gamey'. 🙂


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:19 am
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Sell by/use by dates are put on everything to satisfy over-zealous food standards officials

Rubbish.

For the OP, it depends if it's a use by or best before date. Use by is exactly that, I wouldn't go too far over it. Best before is a guide, and it's up to you to judge it. Have you tried opening it and seeing what state it's in? Quite apart from that, tinned salmon gops.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:24 am
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I would... Just to reminisce. I used to love tinned salmon when I was a kid!


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:26 am
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+1 Elfnsafety, I pay no attention to use by or best before dates, use your eyes and your nose if it looks or smells off then don't eat it, otherwise get stuck in. I've had yogurts 3 months pass their use by dates, absolutely fine.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:28 am
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Jeeze what's wrong with people?

Nowt.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:29 am
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Rubbish.

No it's not. Many food/health/hygiene experts support me on this. billions of food is wasted each year in the UK because people are too ****less and easily led by bullshit.

My rules are: Unless it's got a green furry blanket all over it, is a colour vastly different from what it ought to be or has grown legs and is running around the place, it's good to go.

I've never suffered from anything but very mild food poisoning my entire life, and that was only from stuff I've eaten when out. Cut the bad bits off, enjoy!


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:31 am
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Botulism for the win.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:42 am
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I ate a tin of tuna in brine a couple of weeks ago dated BB Nov 2007. It lacked much flavour but was perfectly edible.

I'm also certain there was a story about someone eating a can of 'bully beef' recently that they found in an old Anderson shelter.

The only thing I'm wary of is chicken... but the smell of it lets you know if it should be eaten.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:43 am
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but the smell of it lets you know if it should be eaten.

A bit like hairy pie then!


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:48 am
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Do it!
Do it!
Do it!
🙂


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 11:56 am
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Salmon and chips for tea tonight then!


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:18 pm
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in the seventies while serving in the forces we had ration packs dated from the fifties i wouldn't worry too much about any out of date tins or dried food


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:30 pm
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I'm pretty relaxed about BB dates, but no expert...but can salmon not get really dangerous?


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:35 pm
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No it's not. Many food/health/hygiene experts support me on this. billions of food is wasted each year in the UK because people are too ****less and easily led by bullshit.

Yes, it is.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=best+before+use+by+dates&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SKPB_en

I ate a tin of tuna in brine a couple of weeks ago dated BB Nov 2007. It lacked much flavour but was perfectly edible.

As above, Best before is a guide.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:41 pm
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Yes, it is.

Oh no it's not.

Go and find me scientific proof why you shouldn't eat a slightly out of date can of salmon.

I am right and scientists support me on this matter. As do most religious organisations and the Red Cross/Crescent.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:43 pm
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If its best before date dont worry. Even use by dates are pretty rubbish sometimes.

The smell test is the way forward.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:51 pm
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Scientific proof

What do 'use by', 'best before' and 'display until' mean?
'Use by' means exactly that. You shouldn't use any food or drink after the end of the 'use by' date shown on the label. Even if it looks and smells fine, using it after this date could put your health at risk and cause food poisoning.

http://www.eatwell.gov.uk/asksam/foodlabels/asksamlabelterms/

Food standards agency. I'd have thought they'd be experts on it.

In fact, if you'd like to direct me to [i]any[/i] link on here from a respected source that says it's ok to eat food after the use by date:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-gb%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7SKPB_en&q=use+by+dates+safe+to+eat+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

I am right and scientists support me on this matter. As do most religious organisations and the Red Cross/Crescent.

Proof please.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:52 pm
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I would not, but, I would make a pate for elfin 😉


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:53 pm
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Sell by/use by dates are put on everything to satisfy over-zealous food standards officials

Rubbish.

No it's not*.

I used to do some work on BB dates in the food industry.

Basically you store them until the point where they go mouldy or lose flavour, etc and then take a certain amount of time off depending on the product. There's not much science in it and a fair amount of guesswork or experience in knowing how much time to allow before the BB expires.

I'd expect a can to last for many years with perhaps only the flavour being affected.

As advised above, sniff it, taste it - if it doesn't taste off then it won't be.

And yes, I would eat it myself, with a plateful of chips smothered in salt and vinegar and the juice from the salmon. Haven't had that for years.......

*I'd perhaps reword the quote to read

Sell by/use by dates are put on everything to satisfy [b]idiot consumers who've lost any ability to tell whether food has gone off or not[/b]


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:56 pm
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Use by dates are set assuming the highest level of numptyness by everyone in the supply chain... from the original packager to the end consumer.

They are set short so that if you're a complete Fickwut and leave your fresh chicken on the worktop for an hour before putting it in the fridge, after already driving an hour back from the supermarket then it should still be ok.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:57 pm
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No it's not*.

I used to do some work on BB dates in the food industry.

Yes it is. Elfin says food after it's [b]use by[/b] is fine. If you'll look up there...

For the OP, it depends if it's a use by or best before date. Use by is exactly that, I wouldn't go too far over it. Best before is a guide, and it's up to you to judge it.

You'll see I already covered best before.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 12:58 pm
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Id mash it up in a bowl with some out of date vinegar and have a nice sandwich


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:02 pm
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Id mash it up in a bowl with some out of date vinegar and have a nice sandwich
made with mouldy bread, last years butter and a dash of mayo that's been left in the sun all day.. 😀


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:11 pm
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Proof please.

Ok.

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'Elfinsafety is right.'
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See?

However, there was one dissenter:

'Elfinsafety might not be right, but then I'm a former member of the Hitler Youth'

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His predecessor was a supporter though:

'Got to say, that Elfinsafety is bang on the money, from what I've Googled'

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Posted : 04/09/2010 1:13 pm
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That's me told then. 🙄


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:14 pm
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I think in current parlance, that would be 'pwned' 😀


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:15 pm
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damn, i should have read your post better


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:18 pm
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I think Tree has won this epic battle.

*tips hat*


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:22 pm
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Cheers al. *takes a bow*


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:23 pm
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I think the question should be, why would you?

How much is a tin of salmon?

Unless its the very last thing you have and cannot physically get out to buy more, I don't see the point in risking it?


 
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I think Tree has won this epic battle.

Eh? How d'you work that out? I've support from the finest scientific and theological minds in the World, so what qualifies you to make such spurious statements, eh? And don't try saying stuff like 'well the entire populations of Iceland and Burkina Faso support me', because that's just stupid and no-one will believe you anyway.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:28 pm
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And don't try saying stuff like 'well the entire populations of Iceland and Burkina Faso support me', because that's just stupid and no-one will believe you anyway.

It's about as believable as anything the FSA says..........


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:36 pm
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It's in a tin. It's vacuum sealed at the point of packing. Therefore the contents can last for years without degrading.

Indeed.

"Foodborne botulism results from contaminated foodstuffs in which C. botulinum spores have been allowed to germinate in anaerobic
conditions. This typically occurs in home- canned food substances and fermenteduncooked dishes.
-- from Wikipedia on Botulusm

Vacumm makes no odds to botulusm. But if it was sealed in an entirely sterile environment and kept at the correct storage temperature throughtout its life then thats all good.

But the tin and the coating inside will still begin to break down eventually and leech assorted nasties into the food. Far worse if the tin is dented at all.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:54 pm
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Far worse if the tin is dented at all.

But you shouldn't be buying food in dented cans anyway, for that very reason.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 1:56 pm
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I really cant understand how were all still alive 🙂


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 2:01 pm
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Lets get some facts into this
'only 62 cases have been recognized between 1922 and 2005' from here:
http://jpubhealth.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/28/4/337?view=long&pmid=16917124

If you read the study you'll see that the incidents of botulism were caused by home preserving of several different food items.

I would eat the Salmon. You would have more chance of winning the lottery than catching anything from it


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 2:20 pm
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Whats with the vinegar? I've always used it when mashing up canned salmon for a sandwich because my Dad always does...no idea why tho...someone give me science


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 2:41 pm
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Food standards agency. I'd have thought they'd be experts on it.

Thats were you are going wrong!! Such people are typicaly too risk averse and lacking common sense. They are the sort of jobsworths who are going to lose their jobs in the great public sector clear out that is so long overdue. Use and sell by dates are irrelevant for most stuff for several weeks and longer for dried or tinned stuff.

Anyway, whats wrong with food poisening - its a super relaible way to lose weight.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 3:03 pm
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Whats with the vinegar? I've always used it when mashing up canned salmon for a sandwich because my Dad always does...no idea why tho...someone give me science

you might as well ask why have vinegar on chips, its just a good combination.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 3:55 pm