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[Closed] When home bike maintenance goes properly wrong
I'm sure this has been done before, in fact I've laughed over others misfortune many times, so I thought it was worth sharing. I regard myself as a decent home mechanic and can generally get everything I need done on my bikes.
Until now!
I replaced the hose on my rear brake last night, it's a shimano m785, and had got it pretty much bled and feeling stif. So just a few more yanks on the brake lever to get every last little bubble out.... Gnnngh... Crack....psssss.....bugger!
Some how I've just cracked the ceramic piston with my own fair hand, mineral oil is now p1ssing out everywhere and the caliper looks proper broken.
Today I found out that shimano don't make spare parts for the caliper so I now need a new caliper, went for an SLX one in the end as they look the same and are compatible (and cheaper).
So what have you managed to destroy whilst spannering at home?
Everything....mostly more than once.Luckily it was with other peoples bikes.
overtightened a pedal on a brand new XT crankset a few yrs ago - expensive lesson in calibration of tighty tighty.....
Yesterday I stripped the thread out of my brake mount on my fork, one bolt holding my front brake will be fine? Right?
iainc - Member
overtightened a pedal on a brand new XT crankset a few yrs ago - expensive lesson in calibration of tighty tighty.....
😯 good god man! were you actually swinging off the spanner/allen key?
Liking these, some way more expensive than mine!
dabble - MemberYesterday I stripped the thread out of my brake mount on my fork, one bolt holding my front brake will be fine? Right?
With some araldite in there, it'll be right as rain, for a bit 😉
"Yesterday I stripped the thread out of my brake mount on my fork, one bolt holding my front brake will be fine? Right?"
Helicoil is your answer .
iainc - Member
overtightened a pedal on a brand new XT crankset a few yrs ago - expensive lesson in calibration of tighty tighty.....
good god man! were you actually swinging off the spanner/allen key?
well, I used to have a crappy pedal spanner and had just bought a Park one, which is about 30% longer, and applied the same force.....with a 30% longer lever arm.....
Brand new chainset and I didn't do the peddle up properly and completely stripped the thread when I stamped on it.
I have seen a flattened downtube from a mis-timed hammerblow to main pivot bolt.Countless steerers cut too short.Numerous ruined shifters from mis threading the cable.Pringled rims from over tensioning.Forks fitted without crown races.Bent shock shafts from interrupted seatposts.Cross threaded BB's.External headset cups hammered into integrated headtubes.
Pretty much the full gamut of mechanical incompetence 🙄
And only half of that list was done by you! 😀
...but enough about you Rorschach...;-)
Leaving the shock pump on rear shocks and then sitting on the bike, causing pivot/swingarm to clamp, crush, slice the pump and knacker the shock - not me obviously.
It worked out OK but I spent about an hour trying to rebuild a Fulcrum freehub at the weekend- turned out a part was bent when it came out so rebuilding it with the part still bent was impossible, but I was obsessed with putting it back like it was.
First time I ever spannered on my first motorbike, I turned an exhaust stud the wrong way and snapped it off. Ended up needing the engine out to fix it. I learned quite fast!
Not sure I should admit to this but
Snapped a m-arch bomber lower leg when I slipped removeing a seal
The fork brace folded in two opps
Adjusted a barely used X7 lever as "something wasn't right". Ended up taking it apart, then couldn't get all the springs back in.
Took to LBS and they said "too fiddly, we don't bother fixing them, we just replace them!"
To my utter shame I stripped a break thread on a set of rockshox once. The moment you hear that slight crack and feel the Allen key spin is a moment of crushing failure as a home mechanic. Once experienced, never to be repeated.
Overtightened and snapped lockring on xt cassette, ruining hope freehub body. That takes some doing but I'd convinced myself it was the source of an ellusive creek. It wasn't
Didn't cause any damage but when I first bled my avid brakes I followed the excellent avid you tube guide, I followed it to the bloody letter. After about 45 min I still couldn't get things going. Started thinking I was going mad then realised I was bleeding the back caliber with the front lever (American video, levers wrong way round innit)
Snapped banjo fitting on a set of Hope mini's just after the LBS closed
Schrader valve integrated into the base of a fork cartridge while removing
much swearing
That must have been some force you used to do that! 😯ndthornton - Member
Overtightened and snapped lockring on xt cassette, ruining hope freehub body. That takes some doing but I'd convinced myself it was the source of an ellusive creek. It wasn't
mineral oil is now p1ssing out everywhere and the caliper looks proper broken.
Glad I'm not the only one covered in mineral oil after the weekend 🙂
Brand new SLX 675 brakes - I began bleeding them for the first time using epic bleed solutions kit and as I pushed the syringe at the calliper fluid pisses out of the lever from the diaphragm seal - lots of it, all over the wood floor in my front room, I don't yet know how much damage was done.
I've also got a small collection of hose nuts with rounded flats.
Attaching a hose to an elixir 5 calliper I sheared of the head leaving the thread in the calliper. Fortunately I greased the thread before hand other wise I would not have been able to extract it from the calliper.
Using a Hope bleed kit and running it off the tyre pressure from a car spare wheel.
Apparently space saver spares run at very high pressure. I pretty much blew the top cap off the master cylinder.
I had similar woes this weekend. I was cleaning my Saint (m810) caliper pistons with a little mineral brake fluid to rid them of the winter detritus and mistakenly overextended the amusing one of the pistons to pop out. I have managed to replace this within the caller housing, but now none of the pistons are extending when the lever is pulled. I am assured that I just need to replace this and bleed the system, but its frustrating to have done such a stupid thing in the first place 🙁
franksinatra - Member
Didn't cause any damage but when I first bled my avid brakes I followed the excellent avid you tube guide, I followed it to the bloody letter. After about 45 min I still couldn't get things going. Started thinking I was going mad then realised I was bleeding the back caliber with the front lever (American video, levers wrong way round innit)
Awsome 🙂
I over tightened my Hope seat clamp the other day, first the ally bolt went pop ( I should have stopped tightening there shouldn't I ) so I popped in a temporary Allen bolt and proceeded to tighten until the clamp split.. I'm now sporting a £6.99 clamp in Black, ohhh the embarrassment.
Rorschach - MemberI have seen a flattened downtube from a mis-timed hammerblow to main pivot bolt
Was he trying to hammer out the pivot bolt as the bike went past?
2 Chris King bottom brackets.....
but the cases are made of soft cheese in my defence!
Separating the lowers from a set of Fox forks. Instructions said use a rubber mallet, surely nothing wrong with using a normal hammer... Knackered threads on damper rod. D'oh! Luckily managed to sort it, but it was a lesson learnt. 99p rubber mallet was purchased!
I was bleeding the back caliber with the front lever
Thats superb - but didn't you think " there isnt much fluid going into the lever" ?
Using a Hope bleed kit and running it off the tyre pressure from a car spare wheel.
Im not a fan of that apparatus - you need at least 3 hands to opperate it properly - but they are so easy to bleed without the kit and just piece of tube. Mine went in the bin after the second failed attempt to use.
Never broke anything while spannering at home, mostly due to lots of ham fisted experience when i used to work at halfords lol
I had a mineral oil issue too... although mine was because my mechanic used mineral oil in my brake instead of brake fluid... destroyed the seals and needed a full seal rebuild top and bottom.
Threads and bolts are my downfall. I hate to think the amount of bolts that I have broken on motorbike or pushbike. Its always the quick and simple jobs too!
The most costly+ annoying was probably my sump bolt on GSXR. I didnt realise they were only meant to be hand tight+1/4 turn, very low torque. I was used to cars and steel sumps. Tightened it up (as I didnt want oil pissing out did I?! and spin, spin, god damn fk it! Saving myself money and it cost me loads for new sump.
Again on motorbike, I jacked the front up on fork stands to remove the mudguard, so I could plastic weld a little bit that had cracked. I forgot to loosen the calipers first, but did so whilst on stand.. big mistake. Stand gave way and bike collapsed whilst wheel was out. Front wheel and mudguard went crashing into front cowl and broke front fairing.. again 00s to replace....
XTR cranks & the crappy plastic lock ring & worn splines - ended up using a lump hammer to get them off & in the process the frame had developed a crack where the seat tube meats the head tube. Thank **** for treks warranty - 2013 remedy frame as replacement
a friend of mine sent me an email about 10pm on a friday night (you are on here and you know who you are....)
Pictured was the crimped end of the shimano hose - i cant get this off - i was shortening my hoses and cut down by the caliper.
so he had a hose out his caliper of about 5cm. - no riding his new bike that weekend.
DOH
Swapping forks before a trip to Afan, I didn't notice the bottom bearing fall out of my old Zesty headset onto the garage floor.
Wondered why the steering was binding and tramlining all the way round W2 the next day.
Destroyed the bottom cup but thankfully the frame was unscathed. Unlike my ego.
I managed to crack a piston on my brand new SLX after having to give it a bit of force to get it fully retracted on the first bleed after shortening the hose. Decided that I no longer had any faith in something so fragile so I sold the warranty replacement and went back to Avids which have been flawless so far.
Bent the bearing cups on the rocker of my stumpy by 'saving time' and trying to insert two bearings simoultaneously, using a threaded bar and nut 'bearing insertion tool'. Panicky No no no no no no no moment follwed by crushing sense of inadequacy followed by the shame of asking LBS to order a new rocker - I think they sussed what a bufoon I'd been, doubling the humiliation.
Managed to use the bearing press kit for a Blur frame the wrong way round. So after the bearing was pressed in the tool was basically trapped in the frame between the bearings I'd just pressed in.
Had to hacksaw through the the bolt to get the tool out
I destroyed two hope xc hubs that I'd picked up for a build that I was putting together for my brother..
The disk bolts were too long, but being rather a hamfisted and incompetent mechanic, I mistake the stiffness of the threads for some oxidisation or something similar..
Cue busted disk rotor mounts all over the shop.. 😳
More due to lack of maintenance when I was poor over the summer I had some pretty bad bearings in the Meta over the summer. I attempted to remove them with a large hammer, and got nowhere. Took the LBS over a week to shift them all, thankfully they only charged me the standard price though.
Drove to mojo to collect and pay for out of warranty CSU unit for my creaky fox vanillas. Big hill riding the whole weekend so needed them quick. Drove home, marked steerer for the cut, cut at a different mark. Drove back to mojo, bought another one, felt like an arse.
Do not rush even simple spanner jobs!
Servicing my 36 Floats I was reinstalling the damper rod at the end of the process, without a torque wrench. Overtightened it and PING suddenly the wrench is spinning freely and there's fox fluid all over the carpet - the rod had sheared in two inside the fork.
Thankfully the damper rod was only ~£40 to get a new one from Mojo... plus another £30 for a decent torque wrench.
When making a low speed, tight right turn on my road bike, I managed to fall off. It turned out that I'd cut the brake housing along the bars too short, so when you turn to the right, the back brake locks on. D'oh!
Great thread.
🙂
I didn't get on with the Epic bleed kit for my 785's and ended up with fluid pissing out all over the place from under the top cap. Gone back to the old yellow funnel now.
My crowning moment of glory was a long time ago...my first foray into disc brakes involved a second hand pair of early Magura Louise's which turned up from eBay with slightly rusty rotors. Whilst cleaning them up I decided that a good squirt of WD40 would have the rotors as good as new and rust free in no time...
richmtb - MemberManaged to use the bearing press kit for a Blur frame the wrong way round. So after the bearing was pressed in the tool was basically trapped in the frame between the bearings I'd just pressed in.
This one will only make sense to people who've used XTR M970 cranks... Got the crank tool, failed to apply any thought to it, decided that rather than being basically a self-extracting bolt with a bit missing (simple) it was actually an extracting tool. Remove the centre bolt, tightened the tool into the cranks, which basically just bottomed it out into the crank. Crank obviously didn't come out. This needs MOAR POWAH! So I ground flats onto the tool, and turned it with a big spanner, til it was immovably stuck. Ended up putting the crank arm in the vice (bike and all) and fitted a scaffold tube to the spanner in order to remove it- bike maintenance shouldn't really need a 5 foot lever.
Easier to understand- decided to polish out a scratch on the motorbike. Reached for the tin of sprayable polishing compound. Accidentally picked up a tin of black hammerite, sprayed it onto the bodywork 
Back in the day, when the threaded headset was king, who didn't enjoy that lightly indexed feeling of overtightened top cups... I certainly did.
Recently though, I seem to be in the habit of taking bits off, then losing them... ?
I changed the headset bearings in my Honda BlackBird. Fork legs out, yokes off, head bearings out and all back together. It was only when I braked for a corner on a spirited test run that I remembered I hadn't done the yoke bolts up. Legs of the forks shot straight through the yokes, smashing the sump into the ground followed by the rest of the bike.
There's nothing quite like watching the dash of your bike coming towards you at a rate of knots to remind you why you pay people to fix things...
Oh there's loads...
Epic no 1:
First time doing a lower leg service on my forks. Instead of filling the lower legs with 10ml of 15wt fluid, I put roughly 100ml in each leg. It took me a while to figure out why my fork was spiking so badly.
Epic no 2:
I managed to overtighten the headset bearings on my brand new Hope headset to try to cure an ever-present creak. The retaining cages on the bearings have sheared, but I simply packed with grease and refitted. The bearings are still in use and smooth, four years on. The source of the creak? My Pike forks had a steer steerer and my stem of course was made of alloy...cured with a dab of grease.
Epic no 3:
Trying to straighten the mech hanger on my Enduro. Only one hanger bolt loop remains on the frame. Whoops.
Epic no 4:
While attempting to loosen my X-Type cranks, I opted not to use a mallet and hit the allen key with my hand instead. The sudden slippage impaled my knuckles on the chainring, whereupon I now have an inch long scar.
Epic no 5:
Whilst test driving my VW Polo after replacing the spark plugs, I remembered that I'd shut the socket spanner and extension pipe under the bonnet instead of putting it away. The spanner fell off the top of the engine, lodged into the ground and left a 3" round dent in the underside of the car, which also lifted it momentarily off the ground. The spanner was absolutely fine, unlike my car.
This is one of the reasons I have such a good relationship with my LBS.
I've done under tightening resulting in interesting over the bars moments; over tightening resulting in broken clamps, sheered bolts and crushed bearings and have now learned that attaching a bottle cage is about the extent of my capabilities. Although having said that, I seem to remember detaching a bottle boss rivet while tightening a reluctant bolt once too.
Trying to straighten the mech hanger on my Enduro. Only one hanger bolt loop remains on the frame. Whoops.
I think this is my favourite so far.
So horrifc, but I can easily imagine doing it myself.
I've (briefly!) done the bleeding the correct lever but the wrong caliper thing before. I'm hopeless at routing outer cables / brake hoses, and have been known to rejoin chains different sides of the chainstay 😐
Most recently was a fork service, replaced the damping oil (I JUST had enough left), next up - oil in the lowers, flip the forks ... oh ... it'd help if I'd actually put the damper unit back in, wouldn't it?
PJM #5 is my favourite so far.
I'm pretty good tbh, there's not much I can't fix but I still have my moments. Changing the drums on the rear of my Focus, and halfway through I took a break. Came back out and decided to move the car, jumped in, started it, realised [i]just [/i]as I let the clutch out that it had no back wheels and was on axle stands. It teetered around for ages like a massive rusty weeble 
I tightened, instead of loosened a freewheel, with the wheel in a vice and using an extension bar. After various mates broke and bent chain tugs and scanners, I ended up borrowing a well known harbour side bike workshop's facilities, 4 people and 2 scaffolding poles, it creaked really alarmingly then there was a stomach churning crack and the freewheel was loose......
neilsonwheels - MemberBrand new chainset and I didn't do the pedal up properly and completely stripped the thread when I stamped on it.
Could have done a proper repair with helicoil insert.
Apparently makes for an even stronger thread.
Shortening a fox 32 float fork. Removed the air spring retaining clip without releasing the air from the spring...cue the spring fired at high speed, embedding 7cm into the ceiling, missing my eye by 2cm and spraying oil all over the newly painted ceiling. I hate painting.
richmtb - MemberManaged to use the bearing press kit for a Blur frame the wrong way round. So after the bearing was pressed in the tool was basically trapped in the frame between the bearings I'd just pressed in.
Had to hacksaw through the the bolt to get the tool out
That made me laugh a lot
brand new Cotic Soul frame, after midnight trying to get the bike ready for a ride the next day. putting an old BB in, I spent about 30 minutes just trying to get the thread to bite. when it finally did it just got tighter as I screwed it in so I just went with it... probably crossed the threads. that was a couple of years ago and the BB needs changing. I daren't unscrew it incase I've knackered the BB threads. 😥
Stripped caliper thread on KTM after torque wrench didn't click.
Let motorbike go onto it's sidestand, only I hadn't put side stand down.
Tiding shed and thought I could get a bit more junk onto the top shelf and watched metal junk on the other end of the shelf topple onto my brand new GSXR1000......
Tried getting a tubeless Bonty tyre to fit and seal properly on a Crank Bros rim, inflated tyre to 80 PSI and left it in the sun whilst I started bleeding the brakes on the bike. Got to engrossed in the brakes and 30 minutes later the tyre detonated behind me causing the dog to nearly shit himself in the house and the shock caused the rear spindle and freehub in the wheel to pop out into the grass.
It took me a while to calm down as well!
Cross threaded the bottom bracket on my carbon frame
Rounded torx brake disc bolt, tried to make a straight cut unto it with a dremal to 'make' a flat-head screw, didn't work, I ended up cutting off the rest of the bolt head (and parts of the disc, oops) removed the disc and used pliers to undo the left over thread which came out easily with no pressure on it, thankfully.
My fave so far!
Tried getting a tubeless Bonty tyre to fit and seal properly on a Crank Bros rim, inflated tyre to 80 PSI and left it in the sun whilst I started bleeding the brakes on the bike. Got to engrossed in the brakes and 30 minutes later the tyre detonated behind me causing the dog to nearly shit himself in the house and the shock caused the rear spindle and freehub in the wheel to pop out into the grass. It took me a while to calm down as well!
I presume the dog legs it when he sees the track pump? 🙂
I had probs getting a maxxis to mount on my bonty rim in my first attempts at tlr and took it to my local tyre fitters who let me blow it up on their air line. Obviously thinking about it now how stupid I was that the scrader adapter on the presta valve doesn't relay the pressure back to his line so I told him to bang in 60 (stans fluid already in) and BANG! straight off the rim it went and stans fluid everywhere...... Oooops.
acjim and muckytee, look at it on the bright side imagine if the brakes were avids or hope you would've had that nasty dot oil all over instead!
I managed to strip pivot bolt tapered allen head on stumpjumper fsr and had to dremel cross section in it then used a large flat blade screwdriver to get it out.
brand new Cotic Soul frame, after midnight trying to get the bike ready for a ride the next day. putting an old BB in, I spent about 30 minutes just trying to get the thread to bite. when it finally did it just got tighter as I screwed it in so I just went with it... probably crossed the threads. that was a couple of years ago and the BB needs changing. I daren't unscrew it incase I've knackered the BB threads.
Did this with a 456 frame and my trusty raceface taperlock. Luckily the taperlock cups were made of aluminum so although knackered the frame was fine and i was only £15 down on a new BB.
Brilliant thread!
Once mounted a DHX shock upside down, went out riding and hear a big bang as the shock reservoir smashes against the frame. Somehow no damage done!
Rounded a rotor bolt so drilled it out. Realised this was a much quicker method than trying to undo the others so drilled the other 5 out!
Not an incredibly incompetent one - I overtightened the spokes a bit (these hubs are notorious for having weak flanges which don't take high spoke tension).
...though I might be winning the most expensive mistake with that one - a replacement for that hub is >£1000
yep I'll add in new (second hand) heckler frame and BB crossed it, missus took it up the the LBS in the morning for a fix.
Also headset tightening mid train without slackening off the stem enough...
I too have done exactly the same as the OP.
Brand New XT caliper, shattered the piston whilst bleeding after shortening the hose.
Warranty replacement 😀
XTR Cranks are a PITA too!! That removal tool is handy though!
I fitted a lightweight front wheel to my time trial bike , the QR isn't made to automatically stop at any position so I cycled for about 1 second then realised the QR lever had fouled the spokes breaking one . The wheel was unrepairable and replacement cost was £1000+ I think . Fortunately it wasn't my wheel and the person who owned it was sufficiently wealthy to not be unduly bothered .
Things I've learnt about doing my own work:
Bike fixing job duration is inversely proportional to the available time.
Only put things down in predesignated lay down areas (usually the lid of a quality street tin)
At the end of a ride at CyB I noticed a couple of lads struggling with a broken chain. Being the good Samaritan I asked if they needed any help. They were packing up having not even ridden because they didn't have a powerlink. No problem says I, I can join the chain for you anyway... take chain, works magic and rejoins it. Hands joined chain back to confused lad who looked at the chain and then at the bike.
Lots of laughter from biking chums who were watching on.
nothing overly major...
managed to crack the flange on a ringle hub years ago simply by lowering the bike down off the joist it was hanging on and bouncing the front wheel on the floor
i've rounded off plenty of disc rotor bolts but have always managed to get them off eventually
snapped the bolt on a hope head doctor
stripped the thread on for one of the pinch bolts on my 20mm axle fork
stripped thread on the cranks a couple of times but there's still enough thread to remove it
screwed up a home paint job on a frame once, the paint started to fun so i tried to remedy it with some rubbing compound which made a mess of it all. ended up having to strip all the paint off and start again. when i finished it though it looked pretty good, even with the homemade decals!!
Obviously i've done the usual thing of rounding off shimanos cheddar bolts and assembling the uppers and lowers of your forks backwards but it's the brake fluid on the ceiling that takes the prize for me:
Reservoir caps off and injecting new fluid in the calliper then... ****
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bleeding a friends's Shimano's, did not put a block between the pistons, kept pumping to bleed and of course the pistons shot out, needeless to say oil all over the floor.... manged to sort it all out in the end!
1st time building a bike bought a set of 2nd hand raceface cranks, didn't realise it needed the crank bolt, was hammering away at the arm trying to get it fit... checked, rec-checked you tube, instructions, finally dawned on d-uh me that I needed a crank bolt... !! 😳
Again, too many to mention.
One thing that always strikes me as poor is when a manufacturer produces a lovely product but then uses bolts that seem to have boltheads made of lead. Hayes brakes were the worst - ended up having to hacksaw a screwdiver slot into one and replacing it with a bottle cage bolt after the little sod had rounded at the sight of an allen key.
My favourite 'spiralling out of control' sequence was going to replace a broken spoke in the rear wheel to find that the cassette has chewed into the freehub body and wouldn't come off. Eventually the freehub body, cassette and all came off - to reveal that the pawl springs were broken as well. It was only a bloody spoke - ended up having to replace a freehub as well!
Over 20 years ago I had a VW Scirocco and decided to change the oil in the gearbox.
Drained oil out and refitted the gearbox sump plug.
All I had to do now was put the new oil in which did but straight into the clutch inspection hole! It was only when I saw oil running onto the drive that I realised something was wrong.
Cost me a new clutch which back then was over £200!!
richmtb - MemberManaged to use the bearing press kit for a Blur frame the wrong way round. So after the bearing was pressed in the tool was basically trapped in the frame between the bearings I'd just pressed in.
Had to hacksaw through the the bolt to get the tool out
For some reason this one cracks me up. I think because it didn't result in expensive replacing of bike parts... 🙂
