- What 'Fun Car' – £25k and under.
Depends how left field you want to go and how much work you want to put in.
Track day cars are great fun but there is always someone with more money making their car faster. Either joins the arms race abd get something like the Caterham 620 or change the rules.
I am doing a BMW conversion which is well within your budget. Look at the mock up at the bottom of the first page of this thread : http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4253
For the money you are talking you could get the M engined version which would be properly rapid. It would look great and generate far more interest than just another Seven. Spend some of the money on handling improvements and you are laughing. Great for Le Mans too.
Just a thought…Posted 4 years agoHoratioHufnagelMember
Right, 1st world ‘what would you get’ thread on second car for track and road use.
1. £25k and under.
2. Lighter weight rather than a bigger engine.
3. Doesn’t have to be new. Indeed simpler then better to enable tinkering.
4. Not heavily reliant on electronics to make it work.
5. Can be either FWD, RWD or 4WD.
6. Minimumn 1 seat!
7. Extra points for quirkyness – the BTCC Volvo Estate was brilliant.
So, those of us who like powered speed as well, what would you go for?
A Locost Seven would certainly tick the ‘tinkering’ box.
Please keep it on topic.Posted 4 years agoglenpMember
Get a test drive in a Caterham. I absolutely loved mine, which I used as my main car all year round. Mine was a standard tune 1.8 Rover K. It took a very long time before I felt I could use more power. Any Superlight will be bloody exciting I can assure you. An R400 or R500 would be a liability in my opinion.
I wouldn’t bother with an SV – part of the joy is squeezing into it, so unless you’re pretty big the standard shape is best. On the other hand being tall and/or portly will make it extremely difficult even to get in with the hood up. They are ridiculously low – you can put your hand flat on the tarmac without reaching down and they pass straight under most car park barriers. The six speed is essential and huge fun; six speeds in the normal range of four so you can snick up and down the box just for the fun of it.
I really really wish I still had mine!Posted 4 years agonumbnutMember
There’s a reason why 7esque cars are popular on track and that is because they are so well suited to it.Posted 4 years ago
Take any tintop on track and without serious upgrades you could be looking at new tyres and brakes after a day (or less).
With that sort of budget i’d be looking at something like a Caterham R400. But beware…..it’s a slippery slope of upgraditus and before you know it you’ll be wanting more power, more carbon, you’ll “lose” your doors and windscreen etc.
btw i’m biased….
WCA – Nice
I have a big soft spot for the Phantom Vortex GTR http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests/doc.asp?c=112&i=5285 but am not sure if it’s still going – although it’s a bit more GT than Sports.
Intusion bars on a Seven (regardless of make) I agree are imperative.
If truth be told, I’d happily get an R8 as, imho, they are lush (yes I said ‘lush’ move on). It’s a bit pricey though and part of me would like to not spend that much.
I would, however, also like something to get my hands dirty. Locost Seven would be my preference for a Seven simply because I’d like to build from scratch.
I had thought of getting a couple of mk1 Golf GTis. One to be totally original and one to be ‘modded’.
Liking the TVR – there’s a nice silver Tuscon for sale down the road at the moment. 350T would be nicer though.
Not bothered about being the fastest it’s about enjoying the drive.
Keep ’em coming. Anyone have an MX-5?Posted 4 years agobazzerMember
I ran a Wesfield Megabusa on track for about 10years it was brilliant.
I ended up turboing it because of the above “Arms Race” So it ended up 330BHP and 480Kg
It was mental, the pic of Spa really reminded me of the trips we used to do. Met a lot of good friends because of that car 🙂
So yeah unless you want to go wings and slicks a 7 type car is going to give you the best smiles on track if you want to go fast.
Mate who used to run a similar car to me now runs an E36 328 BMW Coupe. Its mostly stripped out and runs coil over shocks etc. He loves it and he can drive it too the track and back. I used to trailer the Westfield as it was god awful on the road 🙂Posted 4 years agoprawnyMember
Don’t know how they’d be on a track, not being its primary purpose, but I think the Toyota GT86/Subaru BRZ come in at about £25000, and they get decent write ups.
I read a review once that said the boot was the exact size of 4 wheels and a trolley jack and was designed that way. I reckon it would be an awesome track car. Won’t be the fastes though if that bothers you.
Have you seen the elk test video? Ace.
I’ve always wanted a caterham though, since I was at school.Posted 4 years agowobbliscottMember
I used to track my 1987 944 turbo. Great car but I was too worried about being too hard on it to really give it 100%. And if I did give it 100% is was so fast if I got into trouble it would get very messy and expensive. After a few years I came to the conclusion you’re better off with something cheap so if you stack it you just replace it and you’ve not got much invested in it. So a small hot hatch would be perfect for fun, such as an old Clio Sport, Saxo VXR, something of that ilk. They’re dirt cheap, can be driven to the track (trailering is a pain), reasonably fast but not so that you can’t push them hard (which is where the fun is, rather than a powerfull car that you can’t push to the limit), and handles well. The people put on track aren’t the lawyers in their GT3’s, its the people who bring their old bangers along and thrash the living daylights out of them. They’re faster than the GT3 boys too who tend to tip-toe round for a few laps.Posted 4 years agojambalayaSubscriber
Looking at your requirements then a 7 is a very good choice, if you want a few more creature comforts then Elise. I’ve driven both and whilst the 7 is outstanding fun per £ the Elise will be more practical to the extent you care.
I would have suggested a used Porsche Cayman but for 50% track use you’d probably generate some decent sized maintenance bills. The car works fine with the electronics off 8)
A Subi WRX could be a lot of fun with a few mods and you can put the bike in …Posted 4 years ago
Bike goes in the Black Box.
The Beast is a lot of fun on the track – booked Oulton Park for the 8th of Novemeber today – but in reality it’s got more grip than power so…..
Have considered fitting a 1.4TSi lump to the Beast for a, cheaper tax and b, more power but I digress.
Weirdly, I had thought of a 944 Turbo.Posted 4 years agohot_fiatSubscriber
For a lot less than 25k you could have a stunning classic track day mini (go speak to Dave at SH Engineering and get a miglia spec race engine). Still used by one of the instructors at Croft to show the GT3 guys how fast you can actually go.
Or how’s about Rowan Atkinson’s Lancia Delta Integrale 😯Posted 4 years ago
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