- vivaro swb or lwb?
I looked at all the options and came to the following conclusions;
1/ the crewcab looks neat but lacks ultimate flexbility
2/ the SWB doesn’t allow a bike to be fitted in lengthwise without some dismantling (front wheel) or fitting diagonally (which is a waste of space)
3/ when you’re driving it, the extra length isn’t noticable.
That’s why I went for a LWB version (OK – mine is a Trafic). I opted for a straight panel van and had windows and Q/R seats fitted. The seats are 2:1 and they can be fitted in reverse for when I’m using it as an ad hoc camper.
The inside looks like this…
The rear windows are heavily tinted so you can’t see in from the outside.Posted 5 years ago
Both wheels off I reckon you would get a minimum of 4 across the van, depending on frame size. (I hold the work record for 9 complete bikes and 5 wheel off bikes in a standard swb vivaro van).Posted 5 years ago
We use the crew cab for trips to Norfolk and I fill the space around the bikes with luggage and accessories
hora – I lined out the van myself after insulating it. I didn’t take any photos as I went, but followed damions lead after reading this thread http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/insulate-my-van
The felt stuff is from http://www.megavanmats.com/liningcarpet.htm
I bought loads of the stuff as (a) I was convinced I’d cock it up somewhere along the line and (b) I was going to ply/carpet the roof. However, I managed to find a roof lining (off a minibus) on ebay. With some cheap foam camping mattress stuck to the roof it’s been just great.
All that effort has made the van very quiet, so I don’t miss the bulkhead. It also means I get no problems with condensation.
The flooring is just some cheap vinyl from B&Q in that chequered aluminium look.
I also added a couple of 12v sockets, running straight off the battery, for power washer, phone charging etc plus a wee LED spotlamp at the back. Add in some extra speakers for the rear and it was a lengthy, but satisfying project.Posted 5 years agobigphilblackpoolMember
Dont wanna put a spanner in the works but in my experiance vivaros/primstars and the traffics have all bin nightmares reliability wise, ive worked for a few firms whove had varying models from 02 plates right up to the lates models, turning circles poor, ecu likes to go haywire and cost you a fortune, gearboxes like to shear to pieces and clutches arent the best, this is just my opinion barr one has bin ok which was used as our crew bus (lwb crew cab) and that was a bit knocky, we couldent rape them as they had limiters on them and trackers so no short shifts or 100mph blasts home on a friday, theyve just given back the last one after gearbox number 2 has spit its load out, transits are now flavour of choice!!!! Just my opinion btw not trying to piss on ur chips just a heads up to look and see if its bin well maintained or had any work done to it, the worst culprits seem to be 04-08 vivaro cdti.Posted 5 years agocr500domSubscriber
I`ve done over 70,000 miles in my Trafic (02 reg)and I have found it pretty good overall, had a HP pump changed last year (£500) and it does at least one wishbone per year but other than that its been no worse than any other vehicle I have owned.
At some point it will want a clutch, and I`d like to put a recon turbo on it, but thats more for peice of mind than anything.
It hasn`t been babied, but it hasnt been abused either, I have lived in it during the week at times when working away, and its done trips out to the Alps in winter.
I am now looking at windows in the side, insulation and additional seats so we can use it more for family stuff and away days.
I`d happily have another one.Posted 5 years agochakaping wrote:
Hijack question – is it normal for Vivaros to have Renault hoses under the bonnet?
I know they are made in same factories as the Trafic, but wondered if seeing Renault hoses indicated they may have been replaced.
Lots of the parts seem to be dual-branded (including both part numbers).Posted 5 years ago
Hi I’ve got a Vivaro crewcab SWB. For work/family duties. I can get 4 bikes across the back with front wheels off. Drives nice just like a car really. Plus there loads of space up front and in the second row of seats. Had windows put in back as wife wouldn’t let me get one unless there was a rear view mirror as were getting rid of the car at some point.
Only thing I think it needs is speakers in the back for rear passengers which I’ll get round to doing at some point I guess. Just need to find a wiring diagram for the van.
SimonPosted 5 years agostevemtbMember
Might be a bit late with you asking a week ago…
I’ve got a SWB Transit crew – fits bikes in fully built. I put them in length ways (too long for the van) then bungee the handlebars to the roof (bike then fits a dream).
Best I had in there so far was 3 road bikes fully built and tipped up and two others in with front wheels off. Would have managed another one in there too. So 5 bikes, 5 people and all their cycling gear. All inside, all hidden away when we went to a cafe for breakfast. Perfect!
For slightly longer bikes worst case scenario would be front wheels off and 6 would fit.
Transit tends to do 35mpg giving around 600 miles per tank.
Reason I got the Tranny over the others – every Trafic/Vivaro etc I drove at the same age/mileage felt like gearbox or clutch were on their way out. Transit wasn’t quite as nice to drive but felt like it was still in one piece. Plus spares are so easy to get. Got a TDI one so chain driven, no complicated common rail technology.
And the biggest reason, I can sleep across the back seats, airbed fits in there and I can sleep full length, Trafic etc is slightly narrower and wasn’t as comfortable.
Had it over a year now and couldn’t be happier with it.Posted 5 years agosimowill wrote:
How did you wire the additional speakers into the radio?
Did you need to get an adapter of some sort? Or was there wires being the radio already. I notice on the radio there is a fade front to rear menu.
The wires for the rear speakers are already in the back of the CD/radio unit. I was going to try to trace them through the van but it was simple enough just to Scotchlok some new ones in before I did all the lining etc. I found a wiring diagram on t’internet somewhere. If I’d known all along that I was going to end up with the roof lining I’d have fitted them up there but they are fine where they are (there’s a cut-out in the pillar that they recess into).
I also bought another plug/adapter that lets me plug another gadget (like an MP3 Player) into the unit on the “Aux” channel. It’s usually my phone that’s in it.Posted 4 years ago
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