As soon as I here that music its goose bumps. The end of the trailer tho 😳
Im really not feeling the love for Disney and Star Wars.
I get the impression they are going to kill it for every cent it's worth till people are just sick of it.
That said,Rogue One was good.
Not even watched Solo and one of the others (can't remember the name) and I was a massive SW fan as were/are most of my generation that were around for the first three.
It's all a bit bleh now. Mind you, that's no doubt due to my age bit as much as anything.lol😁
Not a lot of new footage in the 2nd trailer - but it looks good. It can’t be worse than The Last Jedi though!!
Not a lot of new footage in the 2nd trailer – but it looks good. It can’t be worse than The Last Jedi though!!
We won't get an actual trailer till about October, this is just some fans service ont he back of a Disney Junket to get the hype brewing.
I'll call it now, Evil Rey is either some drippy dream, or it's a clone being used as a vessel for the Emperors soul and Rey will have to fight herself
I liked all the Star Destroyers lined up for a fight though
Poopscoop
Not even watched Solo
Solo's good! I mean, it's basically an episode of FIrefly but it's good.
That explains why I really like Solo. Feature length Firefly with guest appearance from Chewbacca. I honestly like it more than Force Awakens and Last Jedi. Rogue One is great too. I’ll wait for the digital release of this new one as last two were a bit lacking imo.
Solo was bobbins...in fact almost all of the new stars wars (everything after the first 3 that were made) have been mince...formulaic and very predictable (and all telling the exact same story, strangely in 3 parts).
Rogue One was the best out the lot, but it didn't have to try too hard.
Saying that, I've watched them all, so I'm clearly a glutton for terrible star wars stories.
I rewatched Solo the other night and enjoyed it more but it wasn't great.
I probably prefer Solo to the other recent releases. Partly because I’m a huge Chewwie fan and also as it was a good old fashioned romp. Tue other films would all benefit from being 30-45 mins shorter IMO.
And FTR I too am a huge fan of the whole SW universe.
The last Jedi killed the franchise for me, too many scenes that changed the whole construct of Star Wars
I think Disney have made one very good Star Wars film in Rogue One, a watchable and enjoyable crime caper in Solo, and two complete stinkers.
(The Mandalorian looks like it could be very good. Here is hoping).
We won’t get an actual trailer till about October, this is just some fans service ont he back of a Disney Junket to get the hype brewing.
I know it’s not a ‘trailer’ trailer - but effectively, it’s doing the same job for us as it’s potential audience.
I’ll call it now, Evil Rey is either some drippy dream, or it’s a clone being used as a vessel for the Emperors soul and Rey will have to fight herself.
My thoughts exactly.
I'm looking forward to it but not building up my hopes the Last Jedi was ok it certainly didn't change the construct.
I won't be watching many trailers and certainly not fan made ones.
Looks like a remake of Highlander in that poster...
changed the whole construct of Star Wars
Go on...
So, was that a fan made trailer then? If so, where did they get the new footage?
I’ll call it now, Evil Rey is either some drippy dream
Like the tree scene in The Empire Strikes Back.
I dunno. I might watch it when it appears on ITV2 in a few years' time. Rogue One was ace but The Last Jedi borked Star Wars for me.
So, was that a fan made trailer then? If so, where did they get the new footage?
Nope. Official Disney one for the Disney promo event.
Never been that attached to Star Wars but always regarded them as top notch popcorn munching films, in one ear, out the other but a perfectly serviceable way to kill a few hours.
The lack of attachment seems to explain why I was perfectly content with the Last Jedi, whilst the more invested amongst us... to put it mildly... weren't
no ones hates star wars film more than star wars "fans"... it's like the 1st 3 films are untouchable and shouldn't ever be messed added to/embellished upon... i don't get it!
also, most of us, when we saw ep iv v & vi, will have been less than 10 years old... that's the target audience here, i think we lose sight of that.
and one last thing, i remember when ep i, ii & iii came out and they were slated... now they've come of age and people re-watch them with glee and delight! make of that what you will.
i've enjoyed every star wars film that's come out so far... no one's making anyone watch them you know....
can't wait for the next installment.
Last Jedi was better than Force Awakens imo.
Star Wars Rebels is better than any movie apart from original trilogy.
i remember when ep i, ii & iii came out and they were slated… now they’ve come of age and people re-watch them with glee and delight
Really? I’m not a huge fan of Star Wars, but those films are shite and have aged very badly. Thought that was the general consensus on them.
Last Jedi was better than Force Awakens imo.
Couldn't agree more, Last Jedi's not perfect, but at least it wasn't just a rehash of A New Hope with new locations and slightly changed stormtroopers
Really? I’m not a huge fan of Star Wars, but those films are shite and have aged very badly. Thought that was the general consensus on them.
nope, people who were about 10 when they came out are now late 20s and they're love by that generation... just have a look at instagram groups on the matter
I have enjoyed them all. Megafans hate them because they're 'wrong' or something, but basically they are all the same kind of thing. The only difference with the original three was that we were all younger when they came out, and they were different at the time. They influenced cinema so that doing the same thing again becomes harder.
I think that all the other films have had the same ingredients, they just don't have the same impact. I don't quite know what haters of the later films would have liked to see...
Last Jedi was better than Force Awakens imo.
U R mentalz
Couldn’t agree more, Last Jedi’s not perfect, but at least it wasn’t just a rehash of A New Hope with new locations and slightly changed stormtroopers
At least Force Awakens wasn't boring. And didn't have a space donkey race. And didn't have Space Mary Poppins.
Both the Force Awakens and the Last Jedi were quite rubbish. TFA is just A New Hope (The original film) just shuffled around a bit. TLJ was trying to be Empire Strikes Back, where all hope is lost and the rebellion is on its knees, but it sucked so bad that no one actually cared.
nope, people who were about 10 when they came out are now late 20s and they’re love by that generation… just have a look at instagram groups on the matter
That actually surprises me. The originals have aged better than them and the acting and effects are woeful. Look like something that the sci-fi channel would do. My younger brother and sister are in their 20’s and they and their friends agree with me.
I think the new ones have lacked a decent villain. Kevin the teenaged Jedi and his epic hissy fits don’t quite make the cut. Pity as Driver is a brilliant actor.
I actually quite enjoyed Last Jedi. Yeah it's a mess but there's bits in it that are pretty awesome... this sounds like gcse film studies but the use of colour and light is just fantastic at times- in the big lightsaber fight with rey and kylo ren, and that stupid bit with the speeders in the desert, and the suicide jump to light speed... Really gorgeous, striking bits of filming I thought.
Most of it, not so much, though.
Final trailer:
I found this trailer lacking, a good trailer I'll watch twice, wish I never watched this one... C3PO saying friends and other awful characters I hate getting screentime, not enough Palpatine too
You had one Job
I'm sure I'll go and see it on the big screen, but my expectations are pretty low after the Last jedi, but hey, that's usually not a bad place to start.
I went into TFA awakens with the prequels firmly in mind and it turned out great, went into TLJ buoyed by TFA and Rogue One and it was a complete turd of a thing.
Liked the look of a lot of it, horses galloping on the deck of a star destroyer, not so much.
oh god that's dire, I wish 3PO would die, with lines like that.
Yeah it looks terrible, I will probably still go to the cinema to see it though (even if it’s just to finally draw a line under the whole sorry mess) so I guess it’s done it’s job 😂
Yeah, those horses and that 3PO bit look tragic
Tickets booked obviously.
How do ticket sales of films that people hate show up on the bottom line differently to those that don't?
I don't watch the new star wars, it ended at Return of the Jedi for me.
Pretty clear to me that the girl is either the emperor's daughter or a clone from him.
or a clone from him.
Rebel ships massing for a big f-off battle - tick
Reappearance of Tantive iv - Tick
Y wings back in business - Tick
Kylo Ren kicking ass with his mask on - Tick
Music that makes it a little dusty in here - Tick.
Yes, the chances are it'll be disappointing. Yes 3po is still a PITA & Yes I'll be annoyed by the cgi horses / animals and want proper models.
Still going to see it.
Clearly the 4 brain cells I employed whilst watching it makes me wait with panted breath at the first screening.
No tickets booked, I’ll join the queue.
It looks alright considering it's a Disney childrens toy franchise about a world populated by intergalatic space penguins and planets full of teddy bears.
I liked the 3PO bit… looks like he’s sacrificing himself for the common good to me. Children crying at robot death is exactly what’s needed in a film claiming to be the end.
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Yeah, those horses and that 3PO bit look tragic
agreed
And I see they are making it extra epic by having as many CGI spaceships crammed on the screen as possible
It always seems like a great idea but just doesn’t follow the hype.
I’m fed of being disappointed by Star Flaws.
looks terrible
Does it? Looks OK to me, Just another star wars film.
The Anti-hype bandwagon for most modern, big budget Sci-Fi films and telly from "Fans" seems to be bigger than the actual promotion of the thing itself...
It looks alright considering it’s a Disney childrens toy franchise about a world populated by intergalatic space penguins and planets full of teddy bears.
Like the original three then? Why change?
I'm in, all the way.
Like the original three then? Why change?
I’m in, all the way.
Ditto. They're enjoyable kids' films, and people take them way too seriously.
Used to adore the original 3, but I'm now taking it for what it is, a movie franchise money making behemoth rather than anything Oscar worthy. Its become something me and the 10 yr old daughter really enjoy together, so tickets booked!
Star Wars came out in 1977. I remember going to the cinema in 1980 to see Empire, it was queued round the block outside... I was eight years old and excited beyond belief.
Is it such a great leap that a film which appeals to an 8-year old might not have quite the same impact on someone forty years older? They're family films - whooshing spaceships, laser swordfights, good guys beating the bad guys, cute puppets and robots, chases down corridors, blowing shit up. A bunch of WMACBs on a bike forum isn't their primary target audience.
I'll be going to see it, and I'll enjoy it even it it turns out to be a bit pish, because I like all those things.
A bunch of WMACBs on a bike forum isn’t their primary target audience.
I disagree. I think we're exactly their primary target audience. They're trading on the nostalgia of history and counting on us to take our kids and grandkids along for the ride.
I queued round the block as a six year old in the spring of 1978 to see Star Wars ( it didn't reach the provinces of the UK till then) and was, like pretty much everyone else my age, blown away by it. There hadn't been anything like it before and it defined the movie experience for me for the rest of my life.
Modern audiences, like my kids for example, don't have that emotional connection to them. Most kids that I know are, at best, ambivalent towards the franchise. It's just another flashy blockbuster franchise to them, which are ten a penny these days.
The MCU is the closest my kids generation have to the "Star Wars" experience.
A bunch of WMACBs on a bike forum isn’t their primary target audience.
There, in a nutshell, is the problem. Star Wars was a film for 8-year-olds marketed at 8-year-olds. The latest three are films for 8-year-olds being pitched directly as a nostalgia trip for people who were 8 in 1977. OMFG it's the Millennium Falcon etc!
They are trying to have it both ways, but it's hard to produce something that appeals to pathetic middle-aged men longing for their youth, and a new generation of children simultaneously.
They could, just as easily, produced a fantastic NEW space fantasy movie aimed squarely at today's children, unburdened by the need to stay in canon with the rest of the SWU. But they don't just want a kids' film, they want our money too. (And we forget how risky a venture the original Star Wars was. Hollywood does not take those sorts of risks any more.)
So you end up with something like TLJ, which was, frankly, a borefest involving central characters who should have been left happily in retirement rather than reanimated into grumpy grandparents who then suck away the opportunity for character development of what should be the central, kid-friendly heroes.
They are trying to have it both ways, but it’s hard to produce something that appeals to pathetic middle-aged men longing for their youth, and a new generation of children simultaneously.
I think that's rather what I had in my head and didn't articulate it particularly well, yes.
So you end up with something like TLJ, which was, frankly, a borefest involving central characters who should have been left happily in retirement
I can kinda see why they did it. There had to be some form of baton-passing, if they'd made Star Wars: The Next Generation with 100% new characters everyone would have gone "well, that's a bit shit, where's Luke and Han?" Though arguably they could (should?) have done that in TFA.
, if they’d made Star Wars: The Next Generation with 100% new characters everyone would have gone “well, that’s a bit shit, where’s Luke and Han?”
Though as very much the target audience of TNG I never once wondered where kirk or spock were.
Hope that wasn't all the best bits in that trailer
Looks like a greatest hits. No bad thing.
I loved the trailer, agreed it looks like a greatest hits
(look at all the ships for the space battle, I bet it'll be a "it's a trap, it's a trap" ROTJ space battle on steroids), will go and see it in the cinema (with or without my kids!).
Can I get a Billy Dee Williams "Yeeeeeeee, Haaaaaaaa!"
canna wait!
Though as very much the target audience of TNG I never once wondered where kirk or spock were.
Good point, though it's not exactly the same thing. TNG was set 100 years after TOS, whereas Star Wars is, essentially, Luke's story. You could have a reboot of sorts but it wouldn't be Star Wars, it'd be something else set in the Star Wars universe (which is exactly what happened with Rogue One).
A bunch of WMACBs on a bike forum isn’t their primary target audience.
There, in a nutshell, is the problem. Star Wars was a film for 8-year-olds marketed at 8-year-olds. The latest three are films for 8-year-olds being pitched directly as a nostalgia trip for people who were 8 in 1977. OMFG it’s the Millennium Falcon etc!
Agreed,
TFA had it both ways, by and large the Original cast and all their baggage were largely absent so it managed to please most of the people, most of the time.
Rogue One was largely a nostalgia-fest, but again the direct links to the old films was subtle, Mums and Dads (it's Dads isn't it..) spotted the Original Red Squadron CGI'd, forgave the brilliant but still CGI characters and frankly the final scene was amazing whether you loved the originals or had never seen them.
TLJ was difficult, they had to finally merge the stories. It's a fact that Kids and Teenagers will and probably must rebel against their parents choices, I'm sure we were all sat down as Kids and TOLD to like this music, or this film, or this sport, sometimes the fact your parents loved it was enough for you to despise it. It usually takes at least a year of maturity to finally admit that yeah, some of things your Dad likes are pretty good.
Unfortunately for us in our 40s and 50s, we don't go to the Cinema as much as younger people, we don't spend like they do and we don't (well, by and large) buy toys for ourselves. It makes financial sense to appeal to the younger market over us. So it's not enough to make another SW film, you have to give the originals a couple of kicks in the slats too.
So yeah, the watered down Han Solo, Poe gets belittled by his Female Boss for his stupid Macho antics, instead of saving the day and the leading Lady finally throwing herself at him very current youth thinking. The Galactic Empire, that stiff-upper-lip, Imperial British Officers in Space get reduced to comedic idiots andthe Holiest of them all, The Force, is really a load of all bollocks, add in some 21st Century mannerisms like brushing dirt off your shoulder and it should be perfect for 2010s Youth.
However they spin it though, TLJ wasn't a big hit, they all but sacked the director, scraped the next spin-off and went back to the guy who did TFA, the last one with it's very Oldie friendly Skywalker title will supposedly try to please all the people again.
It won't the be the last one though, Marvel proved you could makes a trillion spinning out the same old themes and characters. Their will be another series soon and they're hand over again.
Rogue 1 I really liked, TFA & TLJ were so so but as pointed out its aimed at 8 year olds not me (50 going on 12😁 according to Mrs M). I'll wait till it comes out on disc and watch it then. oh and why are they still using Y-Wings they've been a DEATH TRAP from the first movie?😂
Really hoping the new Dune film will be good. and true to the book.