The grand tour - One for the road

Glamorise cars/driving and this is what you get, don't ever remember these three doing much about deaths on our roads?

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-deaths-treated-less-seriously-than-other-deaths

Glamorise cars/driving and this is what you get, don’t ever remember these three doing much about deaths on our roads?

What a poor response that has no bearing on this thread, especially when there is one already existing which you have so kindly referenced? It's a serious topic that requires serious discussion but if you think the grand tour/top gear is solely responsible for road deaths then you're deluded.

Would you like love island or strictly come dancing to cover road safety as well? If you seriously look to the grand tour or any other motoring based entertainment show for guidance on road safety, you shouldn't have a license and definitely shouldn't be near the roads.

f you think the grand tour/top gear is solely responsible for road deaths then you’re deluded.

Clearly it is not solely responsible but it is part of the problem.  The question is how long these three ****s have managed to keep getting paid for the shit they put out.

Yeah, if I don't like it then don't watch it...

Agrees wholeheartedly with ad4m. Dickyboy – that was a pointless post.

But the OP post is great news – they are not a patch on where they were a few years ago, but still provide great entertainment and I am looking forward to it.

On a slightly different (but still Top Gear related). Has anyone seen the Freddie Flintoff programme – his face looks seriously disfigured still – it must have been a horrendous crash.

Edit: And it looks like Hammond is in a Mk1 Capri.

Well if it has a capri in it I might have to watch some of it. Preferably without any Clarkson, and not much speech at all   Also I prefer later models of capri

And it looks like Hammond is in a Mk1 Capri

I think I saw a Stag in it too

Might finally settle a playground argument from 35 years ago, who's dad did have the fastest car?

In my class the contenders were - my dad's Stag (the biggest engine, so clearly fastest), a Datsun 240Z (probably the actual fastest, but I would never have admitted it at the time), a MK1 Capri, a Mk2 Capri, a Renault Feugo (when did you last see one of those?) an XR3i, and a 900cc MK1 Fiesta, although he never really joined in.  The teachers had an MGBGT and and MG Midget, the other two walked to work.

Do young boys still argue about that nowadays? Modern ones all seem a bit boring. How many primary classes nowadays would have almost exclusively sports cars/hot hatches?

"Renault Feugo (when did you last see one of those?)"

One of nine left OTR

I don’t want to watch, support or contribute* to Clarkson and his increasingly rascist, bigoted fascist and conservative attitude and have been boycotting any viewing or reading of his content for years.

However, hypocritically I’m tempted to watch this final blast for the cars and humour.

*likely I already unwittingly have by being a Prime member.

Oh, to be sure I quite liked top gear but to think that a program that glamorised cars & ****ish behaviour in them hasn't contributed to poor driving & less safe roads is disingenuous at best.

My dad had two Fuegos - started with a second hand one, then a new one when he was posted to Germany and could buy tax free. It had a remote to unlock the doors! Which was pretty special at the time. It was the GTS, 0-60 in 10.2s I think. Of course, I wanted him to get the Turbo, but no chance.

ah yes, those were the days, anyone else have one of these from their yoof?

F.M. this thread had the fun sucked out of pretty quickly.

Glamorise cars/driving and this is what you get, don’t ever remember these three doing much about deaths on our roads?

You ever watched a John Wick movie?, if not you’re in for treat

I blame Steve McQueen for idiots tearing around in irresponsible ways on motorbikes.

Send Clarkson etc al to the cooler

It's Burt Reynolds fault. Cannon ball Run entirely epitomises the behaviour on the roads these days...

I also have to blame Clint Eastwood for making bare knuckle fighting and pickup trucks acceptable and for keeping an Oragutan as a pet.. The world would be a better off place without all of this. Trabants and bicycles for everyone...

Grand Tour hasn't been great overall, but realising that this is the end is quite emotional. As a car obsessed lad growing up, these 3 were my absolute idols. Adventures, ebing silly and enjoying cars was such a breath of fresh air after the tedium of fact-based motoring programs.

Back where the big adventures all began on the salt flats with Clarkson in a Lancia.

@Dickyboy

We were ****s in cars back in 80s - can I blame William Woollard!!?

Death Race 2000 !

I have very fond memories of my best mates at uni and me clustering round a tv in our student house to watch the latest Top Gear, and having an absolute ball doing so.

I do struggle with Jeremy Clarkson’s rampant misogyny (though full disco that didn’t stop me watching the first two seasons of Clarkson’s Farm so I’m not all angel over here), and no longer have an Amazon Prime subscription for cost and virtue signalling reasons, but if I did I would watch this and feel a hint of sadness for the end of something that brought me and my friends joy.

There was a real touch of something special about Top Gear when it was still a car show with a bit of humour injected into it. Classic BBC. After years of formulaic repetition of the same jokes, I just find it hard to find any of it funny any more. And since it's all centered around the humour, it doesn't have a lot else going for it.

I might give it a go still but I don't think I managed more than 15 minutes of the last season.

We need to lay the blame firmly where it lies. Clarkson and Co are amateurs!  I think you’ll find it’s all a Vin Diesels fault. He’s even named himself after a climate change causing petrochemical…

There was a real touch of something special about Top Gear when it was still a car show with a bit of humour injected into it.

I agree, it used to be a good laugh but I grew a bit tired of it and never watched Grand Tour. Clarkson is boorish these days, I'd much rather listen to Hary Metcalfe talk about cars. Or farming.

I really do hope it’s a good one, as the last few have been woefully bad.

Anyhow just going out for a quick drive, do a few big skidz, drive recklessly quick and blow a few cars up. Anyone want to join me ?

Not sure how I feel about this. It's an odd one.

In it's heydey I was a younger man with a simpler life, who like many others quite liked cars and bit of 'edgy' 'humour'.

Consequently I loved top gear.

I even had a fastish car, drove like a bit of a dick occasionally and got a couple of speeding fines as a result.

However time has moved on, and so have I.

Them 3 haven't, and now it just seems completely tired, tone deaf, out of touch and ready for a trip to dignitas.

So, I'm definitely not sad i'll be unable to watch new episodes

But I am sort of sad that something which was a constant, and represents my former self and what was overall a great time in my life, will also be dead.

"The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there." - L.P. Hartley

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Or maybe this is just the woke mind virus ruining everything

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Or maybe this is just the woke mind virus ruining everything

That’s an interesting point - most of us try to be mindful and do what we can to be responsible people, but it shouldn’t mean we have to completely stop enjoying things that we enjoy. Watching Grand Tour isn’t going to make me drive fast and kill the planet or stop doing what I can to be a responsible adult, but I can still watch and (hopefully) enjoy it.

Watching Grand Tour isn’t going to make me drive fast and kill the planet or stop doing what I can to be a responsible adult,

It might not influence you...

...but others who are more easily led...

I don't think Clarkson is anywhere near who he portrays on TG / TGT by the way. I wonder if guilt is part of the exit for him.

Maybe I'm over thinking this

F.M. this thread had the fun sucked out of pretty quickly.

QFT

Do you moaning bastards not have a neighbourhood to watch?

I loved Top Gear and mostly loved the Grand Tour.

They had great chemistry on the shows and some classic banter. Will be sad to see it go, but I think its reached its conclusion.

Putting threads like this on a cycling forum is getting close to trolling why don't you all go over to a suitable car forum if you are getting this excited about a car tv show.

ooooh, down with Bruce

Putting threads like this on a cycling forum is getting close to trolling why don’t you all go over to a suitable car forum if you are getting this excited about a car tv show.

I refer you to Mumsnet.

Edgy humour

That's a joke right! You are trolling me....Top Gear edgy humour, nice one! You sir are a genius and I salute you

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CnMQ4L9Pc&pp=ygUUdG9wIGdlYXIgc3Rld2FydCBsZWU%3D

"However time has moved on, and so have I.

Them 3 haven’t, and now it just seems completely tired, tone deaf, out of touch and ready for a trip to dignitas."

It's always been scripted TV entertainment. And they'll have been contracted for X number of episodes when they joined Amazon.

I doubt any of them have driven down the A38 with a burning caravan on one wheel in their normal everyday lives.

They've cleverly milked it for every penny they could get.

They’ve cleverly milked it for every penny they could get.

HORSE

FLOGGING

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Putting threads like this on a cycling forum is getting close to trolling why don’t you all go over to a suitable car forum if you are getting this excited about a car tv show.

Yes, because no-one who enjoys one of the largest shows in the World can also enjoy cycling.

It's almost as if the thread title made it very clear about the contents and yet here you all are chomping at the bit to flex your moral superiority when you could have just stayed away.

Edgy humour

If that's at me, I put quotes round it to show I didn't really mean it!

Lee's line about Clarkson coming up with bile to order for his fan base, that he doesn't really believe in himself, is bang on.

Great sketch <edit FFS. It was a thumbs up emoji I was trying to put in>

Putting threads like this on a cycling forum is getting close to trolling why don’t you all go over to a suitable car forum if you are getting this excited about a car tv show

Absolutely pathetic @Bruce, theres a reason why this forum has a separate general chat forum and a bike forum. If it bothers you, I suggest you stick to the bike forum.

It's ironic that you're saying this is trolling, when I'm convinced this is nothing more than rage-baiting from you.

Posting this thread has reminded me why I'm not on this forum much anymore, don't know why I bother. It seems to be the same sort of people that stir things up on here and spread misery in general.

All over a TV show. Get a life.

Actually while I'm thinking about it...in the earlier days of Top Gear the 'edgy' 'humour' wasn't too bad..seemed to be more dicking about but fairly harmless (?) but then there was a turning point when it got increasingly xenophobic and nasty.

About the time they stuck that offensive numberplate on the Porsche in Argentina.

I think that pretty much co includes with me starting to actively dislike them.

Cheers, signed Hand wringing liberal Middle Class liberal of Leeds attempting to justify my former self for enjoying it back in the day.

Anyhow Grandad OP needs to move with the times.

Just about all the best bits (modern equivalents) of Top Gear/Grand Tour can now be found on YouTube by younger presenters. The only thing that they don’t appear able to do because of budget is the big rad trips. Thankfully the car community is still large and I would say growing on YT. All three Grand Tour presenters have said their format is outdated and not really viable on modern TV

OP - try watching AdamC, Mat Armstrong, Jayemm, Petrol Ped, Shmee, Supercar Blondie , this is just the tip of the iceberg. I bet they have bigger audiences than Grand Tour etc. You may learn a lot about cars and enjoy them

Also I worry more about the avg driver who dies T watch Top Gear , Grand Tour who have no understanding of cars or what they are cable of. They are the dangerous ones on our roads . At least a person who has learnt to do skidz understands car control more

About the time they stuck that offensive numberplate on the Porsche in Argentina.

But as a grown up liberal man it allowed you to be outraged and keep you watching ?

think people still think it's a car show and not 3 old friends having a trip to some far away place in some vehicles.

unsure why you would compare it with youtubers who quite frankly, produce boring content because the car is the content and cars are boring

The site needs a separate motoring forum there were 13 car threads on the  front page. I am sick of cars. I am sick of poor driver behaviour and given the the most dangerous age group are 18 to 50 and male that kind of sums up the people who watch and enjoy Clarksons drivel. Clarksons Top Gear crap and this program normalise speeding and using cars a play things.

People die on the roads every day.

The world would be better off with lots less car shows on TV.

About the time they stuck that offensive numberplate on the Porsche in Argentina.

That was absolutely not the case. They did do stupid and offensive things over the years for which I will not defend them, but that was simply a coincidence.

@FunkyDunk

It's a fair cop 'guv

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I don't get why some people have a hissy fit when Clarkson is mentioned, i'm not a massive fan, he's just a caricature, I like him on the Farm thing, I think he's done a lot of good, far worse thigs to get aggravated about IMHO.

Haven't watched the trailer...I sometimes used to watch Top Gear, but it was never a sit down and watch intentionally. I'm happy to take or leave the 3 of them together...I find Hammond and May good tv presenters on their own.

I'll watch this but won't really miss it...it is just a bit of daft humour entertainment rathe than anything else...

Watched the trailer now...yeah, I'll watch it at some point, but I'm not sure I'll be missing it particularly, it is just another bit of humour on the tv.

Saying that, I'd absolutely love to go on some adventures like that with a couple of mates...that aspect of it, I'm very jealous of, but aware it is almost all scripted.

The site needs a separate motoring forum there were 13 car threads on the front page. I am sick of cars. I am sick of poor driver behaviour and given the the most dangerous age group are 18 to 50 and male that kind of sums up the people who watch and enjoy Clarksons drivel. Clarksons Top Gear crap and this program normalise speeding and using cars a play things.

People die on the roads every day.

The world would be better off with lots less car shows on TV.

This forum would also be better off without you on it but hey, we can't have everything we want.

I love you too.

Clarksons Top Gear crap and this program normalise speeding and using cars a play things.

Agreed bikes are glamourised too. So much bad content advocating going fast on bikes and using them as play things, where the only reason for a bike is to get you from A-B. Bikes are dull horrible things and should have no place on a forum, other than discussing commuting.

Oh I missed Matt Jones, Sam Pilgrim, Sam Reynolds, bloody annoying bikers who distastefully have a liking for fast, dangerous scary cars, how dare they.

Absolutely pathetic @Bruce, theres a reason why this forum has a separate general chat forum and a bike forum. If it bothers you, I suggest you stick to the bike forum.

It’s ironic that you’re saying this is trolling, when I’m convinced this is nothing more than rage-baiting from you.

Posting this thread has reminded me why I’m not on this forum much anymore, don’t know why I bother. It seems to be the same sort of people that stir things up on here and spread misery in general.

All over a TV show. Get a life.

Oooh, keep your knickers on, it's just a joke, you know, like on Top Gear!!!

The anti wokist peeps really don't like others expressing their opinions do they!!!

I like fast cars & I like fast bikes - but apparently to some that’s not allowed & I should be given a hessian shirt to wear & banished to the allotments to exist on a diet of gruel & misery.

F ME…..some of you REALLY NEED TO LIGHTEN UP…..

I’m off to cold start my V8 & have pointless fun on my bike….!