Not sure what it is about knives that fascinates - perhaps it's the little lad in all of us - but I recently bought my nephew his first Swiss Army Knife for his 10th birthday, and seeing the joy on his face as he whittled a 2ft stick down to a sharp stump and a pile of shavings, it made me realise that the fascination never goes away...
So what do people carry? My main knife for woodland/garden duties is an Ontario RAT, with a classic Victorinox Spartan for everyday pocket duties...
I'm thinking of clicking 'buy' on a Böker Plus Gordito as I prefer single-blade lock knives - I know it's not UK legal, but I can justify carrying one for work...
Any opinions on Böker knives? I have a Magnum 'rescue knife' on my kayaking PFD, and whilst a good little knife, it's from their Chinese-made budget line...
He seemed like such a nice quiet chap, always kept himself to himself.......
I can't comprehend needing a knife other than either at meal times or in the garage.
I was given a swiss army knife and an opinel as a boy, so that's what I've bought ever since, the kids get ones too when they are old enough. Can't imagine using anything else.
Are you waiting for the Everton boys as well?
Machete FTW... Unless you're playing golf, I suppose. then a golf stick..
DrP
(in reality, I, like you, like a good blade.. they ARE useful and fun. However, I don't really carry one unless going on scout camp with the lad, or into the woods, or bivvying. Tha Boker does look nice though.
I tell a lie - My keyring has [url= https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/471996800/titanium-mini-q-a-key-organizer-and-knife-for-ever ]this [/url]on it - i backed the kickstarter a few years ago. so, i AM tooled up!)
I tell a lie - My keyring has this on it - i backed the kickstarter a few years ago. so, i AM tooled up!)
Emergency tracheotomy ahoy!
My keyring has this on it
Not legal carry, you utter hooligan.
I'm not going to lie, it's nice to know I'm tooled up come the zombie apocalypse, but the Ontario RAT is used daily in the wood for everything from cutting rope/twine to sharpening stakes, pruning etc.
I carry the SAK which probably gets used at least once a day at work - box opening, cutting bandit straps, nail clipping, digging out splinters...
The legality of a locking blade is an interesting debate - the majority of knife crime is committed with utility knives and fixed-blade kitchen knives. Locking knives are far safer - the only time I can remember doing myself any serious damage has been when a slip-lock blade has closed on my fingers!
Been very impressed with the Steel on an EKA I got a couple of years ago, razor sharp and holds a good edge.
If I was buying a pocket knife tomorrow, it would be a Svord Peasant, every time.
Benchmade mini Grip
Cold Steel Recon tanto
Leatherman Charge TTi, Skeletool CX, Juice SE, Micra
Swiss Army "climber" bought by my granddad when I was 11. (30 years ago)
My big sharp knife that i carry everywhere is more of a small teeny knife that is clipped into my crumpler weenie bag, A [url= http://www.bladehq.com/item--Kershaw-Overdrive-OD2--4716 ]Kershaw OD-2[/url], but i'd quite like a [url= http://www.thetruthaboutknives.com/2015/01/knife-review-kershaw-d2-composite-leek/ ]kershaw D2 leek composite [/url]
I've never handled a Svord, they seem to have a very loyal following but look far too "utilitarian" to me... Even a bit cheap.
I have a similar feeling towards Spiderco, I know the blades are very high regarded but the looks just don't do it for me!
Not legal carry, you utter hooligan.
Ah, but it is..for the UK market they removed the locking mechanism, so it's like a swiss army knife mechanism.
I'd have preferred the lock, tbh, but since i had a locking knife removed off me when I visited the Houses of Parliament (long story, I'd been doing up my house and had the locking knife clipped to my car keys, which I forgot about), the brown trouser moment that thankfully didn't happen, but could have, made me consider the risk/benefit of having a locking knife on me!
DrP
I MAKE big sharp knives as big scott nanny says, he has the biggest and smallest I make... boker make lovely blades, and I believe they are backed up with a good warrantee too...
As for carrying, my blades have mostly gone to the bushcraft and hunting scene,many of who also have uk legal EDC blades too... I still need to sort my one of them out... even the boss is on my back about making her one!
I picked up a spyderco titanium PITS for my 40th birthday. It's really nice but doesn't get used anywhere near as much as my cheap opinel knives. I don't care if I damage those but it would annoy me if the spydercos were damaged.
Makes me wonder why I bothered buying expensive knives.
Decent knives are pretty durable. That's the whole "point"?
I'd have preferred the lock, tbh, but since i had a locking knife removed off me when I visited the Houses of Parliament (long story, I'd been doing up my house and had the locking knife clipped to my car keys, which I forgot about), the brown trouser moment that thankfully didn't happen, but could have, made me consider the risk/benefit of having a locking knife on me!
It's a complete joke, if you carry a knife for nefarious reasons, you're not going to give a flying fig whether it has a locking blade or not!
And as long as you can prove that you use a knife for your work - or are carrying to work - there's no problem with carrying a locker. It's just daft, I would have preferred to get my nephew something with a locking blade as they're safer and tend to be easier to open.
That Spyderco is rather nice, one of the best looking blade patterns IMHO!
It's a complete joke, if you carry a knife for nefarious reasons, you're not going to give a flying fig whether it has a locking blade or not!
I agree completely - I suppose the fact that I am 'fearful of police reprimand' even though I've no intention on gutting some rood-boi suggests I am not really the threat the law was meant to stop!!
DrP
Depends on use. I don't whittle much, but do paunch rabbits and gralloch deer. A simple cheap Buck Bantam locknife with drop point is perfect for bunnies, kept razor sharp with a lansky system and a steel. http://www.buck-store.co.uk/knives-c35?gclid=Cj0KEQjwxPbHBRCdxJLF3qen3dYBEiQAMRyxSzm6GHhiaFlUzgtWlq_eaA7oMo0CdvkIUE2G0s70S24aAqXD8P8HAQ#t420
My favourite knife for gralloching roe is an Enzo Necker ( http://moonrakerknives.co.uk/enzo.html). 2 inch blade, again, sharp as a scalpel. I've got a couple of larger fixed blade knives, a Boker Magnum Elk, cheap as you like and nicely balanced, but I've yet to stumble on any Zombie Apocalypse style scenarios to use it properly, and I've got a Mora for emergency use in the shooting box. Again, can't remember needing it other than to slice up some lamb ribs for the dog.
My lad worked at an abattoir so has a selection of knives for skinning and rendering a deer into various bits and pieces, mostly Victorinox. Razor sharp and washable. His killing knife scares me shitless, and his boner (quiet at the back) is a wicked sliver of dangerousness. He uses a double-sided indian whetstone to keep them tiptop, and a steel between big cuts.
I think it's also worth considering it a 'calculated risk'... In 40-odd years, I've never been stopped and searched by the police, so the chances of it happening are pretty slim...
The only time I've ever had a remotely knife-related problem was when I forgot to take my nail-clippers out of my washbag when getting a flight out of Blackpool airport. The security girl offered to "make them safe" by snapping the nail-file off, which had the result of leaving a sharp, jagged stump that was far more dangerous!
gralloching
Just learnt a new word.
Slight hijack.
How do you sharpen yours? I have a Mora of Sweden Mora knife and last weekend used it to cut the turf when i was laying it in our garden. Did a great job but now needs a sharpen.
I've tried to do it myself with a block and oil in the past and never really mastered it.
PS Mora knife is a great bushcraft knife - just not for your pocket.
I use whetstones, I have 2 that go down to a very fine grit and then strop them on a leather strop.
I considered carrying a machete while guiding up in rain forest-clad Grenada, but it was more to do with fitting in with the jungle-dwelling locals* than actually [i]needing[/i] one (although one could have been useful on one or two route-finding rides).
Otherwise my Leatherman dealt with most knife-related work pretty well.
*Other than the far paler skin, mountain bike, big bag of kit and group of riders in tow.
This is mine:
[url= http://www.gerber-store.co.uk/knives-c1/gerber-strongarm-fixed-blade-black-serrated-edge-p311 ]My Big Knife[/url]
It's crazy sharp, as a quick fumble in the dark once taught me.
His killing knife scares me shitless...
It was interesting, when joining the TA, getting a guided tour of a standard issue bayonet.
"This piece is designed to prise ribs apart to access the softer vital organs underneath. This line here is the blood letting groove, which prevents a seal forming so you can retrieve the bayonet after inserting into said vital organs."
This was followed by the [i]'if you're thinking "COOL! KNIVES! GUNS!" then we don't want you. If you're thinking "Wow, that's some scary and efficient kit" then welcome aboard'[/i] talk.
Hmmm, I was at my kids first cub camp at the weekend. Felt at a bit of a loss without a suitable whittling tool. So then, lock knives - banned, but are those Opinels ok?
How do you get on sharpening a serrated blade like that Eyestwice?
So then, lock knives - banned, but are those Opinels ok?
Not for carrying in public... Any locking mechanism on any length of blade is illegal in public unless you have a legitimate use.
So basically, for everyday carrying in the UK, it has to be less than 3.5" blade and non-locking.
Ok - noted.
+ I've had a few stop n' searches, so best comply.
Not for carrying in public... Any locking mechanism on any length of blade is illegal in public unless you have a legitimate use.
How does that apply to multi-tools?
How does that apply to multi-tools?
Same... If the cutting edge is more than 3.5" or if it has a locking mechanism, it's illegal to carry.
It's far easier to justify a legitimate use for a multi-tool though - I doubt there have been many prosecutions for cyclists with Leathermen (is Leathermen the correct plural of Leatherman?)
Despite owning a good number of big, sharp knives, this is the one which lives in my pocket. Needs sharpening every week and although it's got a locking blade, I suspect the cops would laugh at it.
EDIT: normal size packet of rizlas btw...
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I am going to buy some of these ...
For small fixed blade (not to carry around apart from camping)
These small knives are similar to Mora. (will buy both these)
1. Hultafors Heavy Duty Knife £5.95
2. Hultafors Craftsmans Orange Carbon £3.95
Medium size
1. Condor Eco Parang Machete £48.95 (prefer this one)
2. Condor Mini Duku Parang Machete £88.95
3. BK&T Campanion 2nd Gen £125.95 (many campers like this in Merica)
Large size (weight can be different to ours in Borneo)
1. Condor Bushcraft Parang Machete £66.95
2. Condor Duku Parang Machete £97.95
3. Condor Parang Machete £88.95
Let's not be fooled by the law here. If a copper believes you are carry a non lock knife under 3" and also believes your intent to be ill, you will end up explaining yourself to a court. Play nice. Try not to look like a stabber-ist and you'll probably not get a second look.
So then, lock knives - banned, but are those Opinels ok?
Opinels are lock knives.
I suspect the cops would laugh at it.
I suspect they will detain you.
I have this on my keyring. 1" of locking illegality
Locking and a hidden blade, illegal on two counts.
How does that apply to multi-tools?
Same thing, a locking blade is illegal whether it's on a knife, a multi-tool, a key ring or a cheese sandwich. There's plenty of multi-tools with non-locking blades though (the SAK for a start).
I suspect the cops would laugh at it.
I suspect they will detain you.
You're probably right but I've carried a penknife of one kind or another since I was 11. Never stabbed anyone apart from my own clumsy self and am willing to take the risk for the practicality.
Opinels are lock knives.
The classic Opis are, but I've just noticed they do a range of UK legal non-locking knives...
For outdoorsy stuff, I think the [img] http://www.lightmyfire.com/products/products/swedish-fireknife.aspx [/img] is brilliant:
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Lovely grind, strong (I used it to split large logs, whacking it with a second large log on the back of the blade), and v sharp (we all remember my 'i cat my finger open thread..')
Cheap too - about £23
DrP
The classic Opis are, but I've just noticed they do a range of UK legal non-locking knives...
Oh? I was not aware of that, cool.
I'd love to put a few pics up of some of my recent builds... but I'm not allowed anymore, I'll get told off...
(we all remember my 'i cat my finger open thread..')
Ah! I immediately thought of that when I read the title of this thread. Was that you? The bikepacking trip and forgetting to cut way from yourself?
but I'm not allowed anymore
We've all seen them, so you can stop hijacking threads.
Oh? I was not aware of that, cool.
[url= https://www.heinnie.com/opinel-inox-stainless-steel-no-5 ]Heinie Haynes[/url] have them - only seem to be smaller models though.
I've never got on with them, they hone up razor sharp very easily but don't hold the edge very well... And I find them far too light in the hand. Cheap as chips though!
Not all opinel knives lock. I think the 5 or smaller are ok for the uk.