RIP Whites level.
Maybe a bit melodramatic but…. It is with deepest regret that I have to inform you all that the once great whites level climb is now dead.
Minus the tress it’s turned into a 6 inch deep quagmire from the first turn up through the switchbacks, past photo corner to the fire road.
I actually started to loose my sense of humour over it, then got really sad as it was my fave climb that I’ve done, never failed to make me swear, my legs burn and my lungs ache.
Farewell whites, it was good knowing you.Posted 4 years agoAmbroseMember
FWIW the powers that be recognise that there are problems and plan to deal with the surface soon. See the Cognation site for details.
When all is said and done though- you went out on your bike and it was a muddy climb. I’m assuming your point is that it was hard work. It’s a big climb, it’s been raining a lot around here recently. It’s not very warm, so not a lot of heat to dry things off…
Yr Rheilfordd in the valley is lovely and smooth.Posted 4 years agorickonSubscriber
One day, two years ago… I rode all the trail centres in mid and south Wales in 24 hours. I started at Nant yr Arian, and went south.
When I got to the Whites climb I had been on the go for sixteen hours, it was dark, raining, and i had started to hallucinate. It was the lowest point in all the rides i’d ever done, bordering on crying and giving up. And I’m sure the killer clowns we stalking me.
I’ve ridden the whites probably some 50 times, some slow, some casual, some mega rapido, but that is my lasting memory.
It was a classic climb, and reminds me of first moving to south Wales and meeting some great people, particularly the chap I spent 24 hours with in a van, and on those welsh trails, eating cake, flinging tea bags, and having mini mental breakdowns.Posted 4 years agoDT78Member
Clean? Do you mean Cwmcarn? I always thought whites was pretty easy technically, and when you have a half decent bike and fitness great fun, you can proper motor up it. If you ride it with a 40lb vp free with triples it is not quite so much fun….
It is a shame what has happened at afan. I was in Wales for a weekend last month. Drove past afan to Brecfa even though it is another hour or so drive. Then back past it again for 3 laps of Cwmcarn….they need to sort it properly given the choice in the area nowPosted 4 years agosuperfliMember
Was my fav climb as well. All singletrack, and pretty much all in forest to offer some shelter and ambiance. I was there a few months ago (before it got reopened) and its all bald. Therefore it was never going to be as it once was. Damn shame, although they have plans on planting some new trees that will not get forested (although disease would probably wipe ’em out).Posted 4 years ago
The replacement climb up Darkside was good fun though! Climbing the drops was a challenge 🙂
We talking about the muddy bit by the fire road in the middle that was there before it shut? I used to bypass that by riding down the small fire road.
I dont get why people stay away from afan, yes whites was diverted, was still awesome even with the diversion in place, darkside as a climb is alright and the new descent is super fast. Windy point, which is hands down the best section of trail in any south wales trail centre is untouched and energy is still the same.Posted 4 years agowreckerMember
I used to go to Afan around once a month, but I think I’ve been once this year. I think it suffering from stagnation a little. Aside from the bike parky bit at the top of the wall (which is usually full to bursting with people who’ve driven up there), it’s not been improved for years. The only changes have been necessities due to felling etc, which has not resulted in the trails being improved. We’ve been promised a new Penhydd for about 4 years, which it appears is now coming but I’m worried that it’ll just be another unchallenging smoothed out blue, no hidden valley either. Looking forward to seeing the new Blade trail though, are there any pics of it yet?Posted 4 years agoCaptainFlashheartMember
Now, I’m not one of nature’s born climbers, but even I liked that old climb!
Last trip to Afan was in the summer. Wasn’t that whelmed, sadly. The bike park bit at the top is OK. Ish. Not worth a trip on its own, as seems to be the case for some people.
We did have a blast on the 4X track, at the end of the day though. 4 of us, hooning around and giggling like fools. Was almost like being in Dirt! 🙂
Re Afan overall…With Brechfa offering all it does, BPW giving an interesting alternative (and with some BIG plans for the future), and even CC being just there as well, it needs to start competing to get people there. There’s now so much choice in the area that Afan is looking a little weak right now. A shame, as I used to love a weekend there. Whites/Wall before lunch, then a schlep back up the climb for the shortcut (July?) to the end of Skyline. Hangover day on the Penhydd after that!
Here’s hoping Afan can come back. And come back stronger.Posted 4 years agoNipper99Subscriber
Went to Afan yesterday – fireroad loop on the cx – and could not belive the clear felling that has gone on in advance of the wind farm. It lookes like a moonscape. Very sad. Saying that most of the original Skyline farside (Excalibor etc) looks rideable still so might go back for that whilst it still exists. Afan mtb routes have a worn out feel about them.Posted 4 years ago
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