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  • Riding a mtb without a helmet
  • escrs
    Free Member

    Anyone do it?

    Not interested in the old helmet debate, i know the pros of wearing one and don’t want this thread to descend into the normal helmet debate type threads

    So please just answer if you do ride without one, why do you choose not to wear one, do other riders look at you like your mad etc….

    Forgot mine the other day, arrived at the riding spot, kitted up and then went bugger Ive left the helmet in the gargae

    Rather than do a 50 mile round trip to collect i decided to ride without and just go a bit slower than normal

    Felt a bit naked at first but soon forgot about it, took me back to the days of riding Southsea skatepark before the compulsory helmet rule came in

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    No helmet, no ride for me. Hell, after tearing a 10 stitch size hole in my knee after forgetting my left knee pad and thinking it’ll be ok, I won’t ride off road without them either!

    Beagleboy
    Full Member

    I’ll occasionally ride on road without a helmet, but I’m never without one off-road. Smacked into too many low branches and rocks in my time.

    escrs
    Free Member

    Lol I knew this would happen, please only comment if you ride without one

    ton
    Full Member

    on the road, no helmet

    offroad, helmet

    weeksy
    Full Member

    Sometimes… but only on really hot days on the local lanes.

    Sometimes in winter when i want a wooly hat on ! but needs to be proper chilly for that.

    dangeourbrain
    Free Member

    You do realise

    So please just answer if you do ride without one, why do you choose not to wear one,

    This is the helmet debate don’t you?

    kilo
    Full Member

    Occasionally very much a cx bimbler so no jumps etc. Pretty much never wear one on the cx bike off road, for Surrey hills, swinley etc. Not sure anyone we bump into cares, they look more surprised to see a cx Bike on the trails.

    I don’t wear one on road unless compulsory so I’m used to not wearing one

    rickmeister
    Full Member

    Like you, forgot the lid at Glentress on a couple of occasions… I did ride but changed Blacks for easy bits of Red and Blues.. easier trails and wound the speed right in.

    Often ride a Fatbike sans-lid.. it just “depends” on a number of things.

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    I love ‘only respond if you agree with me’ threads.

    andytherocketeer
    Full Member

    never used to

    they weren’t even a thing when we used to do sick to the power of rad stunts and big air on a raleigh grifter as a kid – helmet wouldn’t stop broken collar bones, nor painfully bruised knees due to kneeing the handlebars when the useless sturmey archer slipped out of gear.

    never wore one when I was a roadie (were’nt really a thing then either, although the cheap shaped polystyrene ones were just becoming popular, but you still had to put a cover on them to make them look better and keep UV off) – and wouldn’t have stopped me needing face sewing back together either after an off on a sandy corner

    never wore one when I live in Holland (and tbh, probably wouldn’t now either if I ever moved back)

    wear one now that I do XC/Marathon/Tour – helps fend off overhanging tree branches

    I don’t drive 50 miles to ride a bike though – so when I forget, the dilemma is “shall I leave my bike outside for 30 seconds, or take it back in?”

    iainc
    Full Member

    No

    kayla1
    Free Member

    Popping to the shops on mainly cycle path- no lid

    Anywhere else- lid

    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    I have done in the past, but gave up after coming off, landing on my head, and feeling extremely weird for the rest of the day.

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    Height of stupidity IMO.

    kennyp
    Free Member

    On long climbs on hot days I’ll usually take mine off. Always on for descents though, no matter how easy, such is my (lack of) ability.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Did most of CYB at full whack earlier this year before realising I’d left it back on top of the car. Wondered why I was getting so many looks, thought it was because of the awesomeness of my riding. 🙂

    So, normally, I wear one, because I clearly can’t tell the difference anyhow.

    nedrapier
    Full Member

    The only times I’ve ever hit my head on an overhanging branch are when I’ve been wearing a helmet.  Didn’t wear a helmet for ages, and really didn’t understand why so many people seemed to be having problems, you just duck – don’t you know where your head stops?

    Not when you’re wearing a helmet you don’t. there’s an inch plus on top, plus you lose sight of the branch quicker due to the peak.

    Don’t wear one commuting in London (very central commute only, no high speed will they/won’t they junctions). Wear one off road almost all of the time. Doesn’t bother me if I realise half way up the hill I’ve forgotten it: “oh, that’s why it feels so free and fresh and pleasant!”  I’ll just tell myself  to back off on the descents, then realise I’m doing no such thing :-/

    they’re pretty vital for night riding on twisty trails, unless you’re going to tape a light to your head.

    daern
    Free Member

    No helmet, no ride for me, road or MTB. I turned up for a group MTB ride having forgotten to bring one once and was lucky that someone had a spare – had they not, I would have turned around and gone home again.

    The only time I ever ride without would be on an away-from-traffic sustrans sort of route, but otherwise I wouldn’t consider it. Partly because it just feels “weird”, partly because of safety, but mostly because I ride a lot with kids (my own and other people’s) and it’s much easier to adopt a black and white policy rather than have shades of grey. For my own kids, I’ve never once had a “awww, do I have to wear it today?” argument, because they know that helmets are something you wear on your bike and they wouldn’t consider riding without one. When I see kids riding trail centres without one, I have to bite my lip to stop me berating the “responsible” adult, but generally I’ll just wince and look the other way because it ain’t my responsibility.

    ps. Responding specifically because OP insisted that he only wants to hear one side of a long-running argument.

    beardo74
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    Similar story – I did my first ever a ride on Dartmoor a few years ago, a bit pressed for time so drove to a handy start point.  Climbed up a steep, rocky, wet lane covered in slippy, baby head sized rocks then spent a happy hour bimbling round on the open moor feeling a great sense of freedom and peace & quiet I wasn’t used to.

    I met a ranger and chatted for a while.   As I rode off he said “Well at least it looks like you have a decent bike” which I thought was an odd thing to say.

    I hurtled back down the rocky lane to the car, falling off twice, and when I opened the boot I found my helmet sat there.   Oops

    I always wear my helmet off road, but I can definitely see the attraction of not wearing one.

    escrs
    Free Member

    Cheers for the replies from the guys who don’t wear one

    I know all the reasons to wear one, which are mentioned in every helmet debate and people have decided to mention them on this thread even though i asked them not to

    I’m purely interested in the people who choose not to wear one, their reasons why, the reactions they receive from other riders etc….

    Would like to gauge if they are a small minority or if it is more wide spread than i think it is

    Reason why i don’t want people who wear one to comment or start turning this into a helmet debate is i would like to encourage as many non helmet wears to comment and if this starts turning into a helmet debate (which it has, i should of known better!!) it does put some non helmet wears off commenting

    Been speaking to roadies too (im also one) and the helmet debate is quite fierce with them and some non wearers have said they have not commented due to the arguments/debates getting out of hand

    So again, please only comment if you don’t wear a helmet and why you decided not to wear one and how you are received by other riders when out

    ndthornton
    Free Member

    No helmet, no ride for me. Hell, after tearing a 10 stitch size hole in my knee after forgetting my left knee pad and thinking it’ll be ok, I won’t ride off road without them either!

    I tore a 12 stitch sized hole in my knee 3 weeks ago when wearing kneepads! Iv also torn my cruciate knee ligaments while wearing different knee pads.

    Protection reduces the risk a bit but doesn’t eliminate it. I wear helmet and knee pads still but if I turn up somewhere accidently without them it doesn’t stop me riding. As mentioned just go a bit slower.

    Bez
    Full Member

    Not all riding is the same.

    I used to chuck myself down rocky Welsh hillsides as fast as I could; used to jump on ski lifts and chase people down a mountain; used to find the steepest, rockiest, most technical daftness I could; used to be a yoof for whom charging around everywhere at full tilt was what came naturally. Helmet for all of those? Yes please.

    These days cycling is a very blurred activity for me. If I’m going out on the MTB with the intention of letting rip on a descent or two (or riding off-road at night) then I’ll wear a helmet. But I do that far less than I used to and these days I’m mostly just riding bridleways between cafes, in which case sometimes I do and quite often I don’t.

    Essentially I’m fine with taking it easy without a helmet and I’m fine with wearing one if I want to risk losing control in the interests of some downhill fun. In my mind (which is key here) there’s more difference between those two approaches to the superficially homogeneous activity of “cycling” than there is between going walking/hiking and going for a hike on wheels—in the same way that most people would see more similarity between going to the shops by car or by foot than they would between going to the shops by car and rally racing. No-one fits a roll cage and puts on fireproof overalls and a full face helmet to go and get some milk, even if they bought a Subaru Impreza to do it in.

    Whether I take protective gear is determined by the level of risk I choose, not by whether or not there’s a bicycle between my legs.

    simons_nicolai-uk
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    So again, please only comment if you don’t wear a helmet and why you decided not to wear one and how you are received by other riders when out

    I’m still going to ignore that as the reasons I do are partly what your asking about.

    Helmets are great defence against people nagging you to wear a helmet and I pretty much always ride off road with other people.  In the city for a long while i didn’t on the brompton when wearing normal clothes but did commuting in kit.  Now I’ve stopped in the city whatever I’m wearing and no longer always wear one on the road bike.

    The reason I do off road is largely for protection from overhanging branches but I;ve wondered, as commented above, whether the reason i hit my head is because I;m wearing it.   However, same reason I wear glasses it does mean you can put your head down and barge through bushes that might otherwise scratch your scalp.

    richmtb
    Full Member

    When I’ve fixed my bike in the garage and ride it up and down the street to check its working well I don’t wear a helmet.

    thisisnotaspoon
    Free Member

    Popping to the shops on mainly cycle path- no lid

    Anywhere else- lid

    +1, See Bez’s comment for more detail.

    My OH doesn’t wear one because she’s too cool for school, despite the fact she managed to crash twice last time she went out on a sustrans path…………..

    winston
    Free Member

    Yes, as above, I will ride a MTB without a helmet if the level of risk is low. This will be muddy field type stuff or cycle paths or going out with my kids (who always wear helmets – they can make their own choice when adult but until then I’m responsible). I commuted for years in London without a helmet and used to often get taken to task by colleagues about this as they strapped on their own helmets then proceeded to stuff earphones in and turn their ipods up to full blast….I guess we all have different attitudes to risk!

    DezB
    Free Member

    I don’t wear one when I go riding in the local thicket with my dog. (Occasional event these days, but used to be daily).

    Reason being, I didn’t consider it MTBing, but ‘taking the dog out’ – flat tracks, nothing remotely dangerous. Fell off once, but that was into a river and the helmet wouldn’t have kept me dry 😀 )

    dangeourbrain
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    I know all the reasons to wear one, which are mentioned in every helmet debate

    As, ad infinitum are the reasons not to.

    There is no reason for or against at all that hasn’t been cited, at least twice, in every helmet thread. In those same threads is it abundantly clear who does and who does not wear a helmet. It is also clear that you can’t have a thread about helmets that won’t attract an argument from both sides, even if your thread was as innocuous as “ohhh new helmet”.

    If you aren’t trying to troll just go read any of the hundreds of threads already on the topic.

    poly
    Free Member

    I thought everyone who had ever put a leg over a bike without a helmet on was either dead or in a persistent vegetative state and so unable to respond to threads like this?

    gary30
    Free Member

    On really hot days on really long basic climbs, I’ll hang the lid on the bars and bimble up without it, but 99% of the time I’m wearing it if I’m on the bike.

    alanw2007
    Full Member

    I wear a helmet for MTB but on the very rare occasion I have forgotten it, I’ll still ride but take things a bit more cautiously.

    Commuting – helmet

    Ride to the market / bakery – no helmet

    Share-bike – no helmet

    kerley
    Free Member

    I never wear a helmet on road or off road (I don’t own one).

    I don’t wear one because I don’t feel it is necessary for the riding I do (road, gravel and easy off road).  The only times I have fallen off (or been knocked off on the road) I have never hit my head because I go into a roll automatically (possibly due to riding bikes from age of 4 and riding BMX for 10 years where falling off was fairly commonplace)

    Worst accident (car knocked me off) involved smashing up finger and needing 3 operations and still have a middle finger that doesn’t bend.

    My observations when riding are that I am probably in less than 1% of people who don’t wear a helmet.  I think making them mandatory would be a complete waste of time based on the fact vast majority wear them already.

    daern
    Free Member

    I don’t quite get this thread. OP, are you trying to convince yourself or others as to the benefits/risks of riding without a helmet? If you want to ride without, go ahead – noone will stop you (unless the race / facility you are riding at mandates them). It’s free choice and I would fully support it remaining this way.

    Would like to gauge if they are a small minority or if it is more wide spread than i think it is

    I can only give feedback based on my own experience from many years of riding, but from my own observation of other riders, I’d break it down as follows:

    – “Proper” MTB riders (either trail centre or natural trails): Virtually 100%. It’s so uncommon to see that it would be something of a novelty to see an unhelmeted rider, tbh
    – Casual MTB – much more variation. I’ve seen kids in trainers and jeans riding without helmets on red routes. The one consistent factor is that they always seem to be bloody awful riders and rarely stray more than 500yds from the car park.
    – Road – Much more variation here, but younger riders seem more or less 100% while older riders are more likely to ride without.
    – Offroad “sustrans” sort of riding – Probably 50/50 with adults, but the majority of kids seem to get helmeted these days
    – Kids pulling wheelies in traffic – Virtually all are unhelmeted. *sigh*

    Trimix
    Free Member

    I don’t always wear one.  Depends on the circumstances and how I judge the risk.

    Off road where I’m racing about on techy stuff – yes

    Pootle to the pub / shop or that sort of thing then no.

    I don’t care what others think or say, judgement of risk is a personal thing.

    shedbrewed
    Free Member

    Yes, I am happy to ride any bike sans thin layer of polystyrene. If the terrain looks really technical then I’ll slow down a bit and really focus on the line to take.

    DezB
    Free Member

    If the terrain looks really technical then I’ll slow down a bit 

    Sounds boring

    dissonance
    Full Member

    Went out once without bothering to put my helmet on since was just giving the bike a quick test after after doing some gear tweeking.  Momentary lapse of concentration resulted in crash time and got a nice cut which the helmet would have saved me from. After that if offroad always wear one. Mostly on road as well although if just going to shops and stuff dont always wear one.

    antigee
    Free Member

    If the terrain looks really technical then I’ll slow down a bit 

    Sounds boring

    …………….

    Went out once without bothering to put my helmet on since was just giving the bike a quick test after after doing some gear tweeking.  Momentary lapse of concentration resulted in crash time and got a nice cut which the helmet would have saved me from. After that if offroad always wear one. Mostly on road as well although if just going to shops and stuff dont always wear one.

    getting some good input? (hopefully no posters harmed by that comment aimed at the OP)

    hols2
    Free Member

    don’t want this thread to descend into the normal helmet debate type threads

    Where’s the bloody fun in that?

    About once a year I set off for a ride and realize that it’s unusually breezy because I forgot my helmet. I just keep riding and take it easy on the descent. I never wear a helmet for commuting (which I use an MTB for, but I guess that’s not what you meant), but that’s an easy 2.5 mile cruise on back streets and bike lanes. If I take someone out for a picnic ride, I don’t bother with a helmet. For proper MTB riding, I always wear a helmet, except when I don’t.

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