PSA – Armstrong documentary on BBC4 tonight
While I am curious, I do hate the vile thug, I’d rather get some insights rather than see a hate-fest or gloss over.
I know what you mean, but it’s the Beeb, so as close to balanced and informed as you’re going to get. Be surprised if we learn anything new, given how much info is out there, but you never know.
Also after after Armstrong is Velorama
Oo, great shout, ta! I missed that. 🙂Posted 3 years agovondallySubscriber
story well told and shocking in all aspects of LA, the deceit manipulation and intimidation. Great characters in Le Mond and Betsy Andreu, the element for me that shocked was the corporate mentality and alpha males in the background, managers and backers/sponsors of US Postal that was quite shocking, in places a great study of the world around the bank collapse. Questions now over Oakley and Nike for me on how much they knew or otherwise.
Human frailty abounded and how LA ands team treated those around them I even felt sympathy for Floyd landis. None for LA will comments on former masseur Emma O’Rielly,
Engrossing.Posted 3 years agosssimonMember
Good watch, always got grief for being a doubter working in a bikeshop, apparently I was a miserable **** for not believing the hype and wearing a livestrong band, I did have a laugh the last ime I was in the shop when they had a few very dusty pairs of yellow oakleys!Posted 3 years agoMoreCashThanDashSubscriber
Accepting that he was a nasty, evil man, and not intending to justify or condone his behaviour, but would we be having this cycling boom and the TdF in Yorkshire if there hadn’t been an apparently plucky cancer surviving English speaking TdF winner in the early noughties? Would our Olympic track cycling success have been enough?Posted 3 years agobinnersSubscriber
I thought he came across as a truly vile excuse for a human being. A complete sociopath.
The most despicable footage (out of a fair selection) was his attitude to the Times journalist, basically saying that to criticise him in any way meant that you’d rather kids died of cancer!
What a weapons grade ****!!!!Posted 3 years agovondallySubscriber
all comments agreed about LA however in Shakespearen character manner who were the people behind this that shaped and developed or allowed these traits to grow and blossom? LA did not do this on his own, there was a seemingly massive machine that surrounded him, supported him, feed and encouraged his response, those who stood up were frightened see the Oakley employee, LA seemingly was the figurehead for this.Posted 3 years ago
No excuse or apology for his actions just a musing LA was a sociopath in the truest form and surrounded by them as wellSteve wrote:
Accepting that he was a nasty, evil man, and not intending to justify or condone his behaviour, but would we be having this cycling boom and the TdF in Yorkshire if there hadn’t been an apparently plucky cancer surviving English speaking TdF winner in the early noughties? Would our Olympic track cycling success have been enough?
I’d like to think so, yes.Posted 3 years agoStevelolMember
Up until watching the documentary last night all I knew about Lance was that he was a big fibber, like lots of other pros racing the TDF at the time I’m sure. I didn’t realise he was a threatening, nasty dirtbag though! I’ve unfollowed him on Twitter as my own tiny protest 😀Posted 3 years agoooOOooMember
As one of the interviewees said, he made out he was superman and everyone lapped it up. Plus he used the fantastic “I do a lot of great work for charity” defense. Now where have we seen that one before?….
What was most sickening were things like “cmon, nobody could cheat and keep it a secret for 15-16 years…” (yes, I’m amazing at cheating AND getting away with it) and “you know if I was caught cheating, the worse thing wouldn’t be losing the contracts, it would be letting down all those people with hope that follow me….”
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From the hazy redwine- Armstrong didn’t look good at all. I also thought the programme was longer than it needed to be and I struggled to stay interested.
Betsy was suspicious and knew her husband couldn’t be clean. What did she say ‘he was doing stuff that he normally wasn’t a natural at’.
If she was suspicious why wasn’t the authorities?!Posted 3 years ago
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