Hi

I’ve got the go ahead to purchase a Pole but the Stanton is the same price and I’m torn between the two ,Pole will take 142 and 148 rear so future wise looks good but I’ve got a soft spot for British
I’m running 27.5 x 2.8
Any assistance would be great
Ta

Which Pole and which Stanton?

Taival and slackline

Personally, just on brand I’d go Stanton, British and I like their future proofing ethos. But with that sort of cash/investment I’d want to ride both first and put final decision down to that.

I have a Taival.

They say it’s up for 27.5 plus, but even then it’ll be 9-12mm ish lower on the bottom bracket. Seeing as its pretty bloody low anyway, I think it would be too low for anything except pure flow trails.

You should go for the Slackline.

Taival and Slackline are totally different geometry, aren’t they? Switchback would be a closer equivalent to the Taival.

Stanton have the option of different dropouts also

Which will turn up on time, which will be less hassle to deal with if it breaks?

I wanted a tarvial, procrastinated, the price kept nudging up and the delivery dates kept slipping back. I didn’t want to by a “drop” I wanted to buy a frame that was on stock.

I ended up with a 2nd hand sick. It’s what on one are selling as the hello Dave. Mine rides great, I’m sure either of your options would as well.

You, depending on the price, might be able to get 18 bikes in hope to build you a custom frame

LOLing a the idea that you had concerns about Pole’s lead times and customer service so you went for a Sick instead 🙂 (I know, it was second hand)

That’s the Pole off the list then

Taival and Slackline are totally different geometry, aren’t they?

Not so different now the mark 3 slackline is out.

The Taival is really well constructed, with nearly all the tubes subtly manipulated too, but Pole were slow to respond to comms and suffered delivery slippage too, so I can understand where tall_martin is coming from.

It’s more what Scienceofficer said regards the bb that makes me wary of a Pole now

The 18’s are very much designed for 29″ or non-plus 27.5″… but they are ace and you definately add them to the list.

See if you can borrow a demo one.

Thanks hatter but my wheels are 142×12 and the 18s are 148×12 ,I like the look of a Soma but again 148×12 rear

What about an Orange P7 29

I ride my XL Taival on 27.5s all summer in the Peak District. No issues with the BB being low.

Slackline is a superb frame and the guys at Stanton are brilliant.

As as someone has said you can get different dropouts for them so boost or non boost 👍👍

Both the pole and Stanton can be run with boost and non boost hubs. Have heard mixed reviews on pole and their customer service from people on the Geometron fb page when looking at changing to of something with similar geometry.

Definitely the Stanton if you’re concerned about warranty issues, ease of returns, etc.

Between the two, I’d probably avoid both.

I own a Pole Taival and it’s incredible, but I bought it second hand and €900 is way too much for what it is (being a hard tail frame made in Taiwan).

As for the Stanton, my friend’s experience of spending months being fobbed off to finally be sent a frame that wasn’t straight and had parts missing from the rear shock when it arrived would put me off buying anything from them. It certainly took the shine off purchasing what was supposed to be a dream bike for him.

My friend has just bought a Pace. It’s proper lovely and £300 cheaper than a Pole would be. As for your concern regarding having a 142mm hub, could you not just use a spacer kit?

Have read on the web reports of Pole’s substandard cs for their fully frames that have alignment and linkage issues.

Personally I would avoid.

Equally I wouldn’t bother with Stanton as there are plenty of options around that cost few £££ less that are equally kick ass if not opening up your choices for what it is you are truly seeking.

Pace 529/627?

Mmmmm Pace mmm

€900 is way too much for what it is (being a hard tail frame made in Taiwan).

I do wonder if they’ve put the price up to curb demand. The production batches been persitently sold out prior to actually building them.

As you say, its an incredible bike, but it’s for sure too expensive now for what it is. It was right on the limits of acceptability for me when it was €700.

How about a Chromag Rootdown?

Scienceofficer

I do wonder if they’ve put the price up to curb demand.

Possibly – it’s FIVE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY euro for a Stamina frame now

Wow. Ive never looked at their FS frames – they do nothing for me and even a short period spent on the user group throws up what seems like a disproportionate amount of discussion about worn pivots and mis-alignment.

If I was spending that kind of money I go straight to a geometron.

Scienceofficer

If I was spending that kind of money I go straight to a geometron.

Two Geometrons, if you’re spending that kind of money.