Please explain

Toilets at work are all cubicles so no spray back. Anything else?

Edit to ask: When you use a urinal do you immediately (well, after washing your hands of course) go to the launderette and wash your trousers? What if you splashed them and then accidentally touched your trousers with your hand? The world might end!

You think there’s no splashback from cubicle toilets? Do you wash your hands after using a urinal?

Anyway, it’s very simple: washing your hands after using the toilet is a quick and easy thing to do, and may well help stop spreading germs unnecessarily. If all you can come up with is “but you don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs” you really don’t have much of an argument.

Together 8 years in July and with 2 kids. I’d like the opportunity to try to cope with oral sex!

you need to become a bit more flexible matey. practice bending from the waist 10 minutes a day and in a few weeks you’ll get all the BJs you want :-p

No time to wash hands, got grass to cut here.

How on earth did we ever evolve as a species without en suite hand wash facilities in trees and caves?

People always roll out nonsense like this.

What was the average lifespan of Homo Erectus exactly? 19-20?
How many billions of people died of dysentery and other nasty infections before we mastered basic hygiene?

How many billions of people died of dysentery and other nasty infections before we mastered basic hygiene?

I was under the impression that inhabitants of many developing nations have amazingly strong immune systems thanks to poor sanitation, and as a result never get ill?

If they had the interweb, I’d link this thread to them so that they understand just how utterly pointless basic hygiene is.

I was under the impression that inhabitants of many developing nations have amazingly strong immune systems thanks to poor sanitation, and as a result never get ill?

Presumably this is better than constantly being ill because everything is too clean?

…and how on earth do you people cope with oral sex?

just fine (when the opportunity arises), but the major difference is with OS i do have a say as to who’s legs I shove my face inbetween.

Not as much of a say as I’d like or I’d be locked in a hotel room with Rachel Weisz right now, not conversing with you unhygenic poo-handed people 😉

I was under the impression that inhabitants of many developing nations have amazingly strong immune systems thanks to poor sanitation, and as a result never get ill?

Your impression is mistaken. Diarrhoea kills over 2 million people a year, most of them in poor countries.

Nope, that’s just silly.

Isn’t it just.

Incidentally I never said I don’t wash my hands after a poo.

You think there’s no splashback from cubicle toilets? Do you wash your hands after using a urinal?

Do you wash your trousers after using a urinal? If not then what’s the point in washing your hands? You might touch something that has touched something that has been wee’d on.

I agree that there is a need for cleanliness, but personally I don’t see the point in washing my hands every time I have a wee for various reasons. As for arguments, all you’re really saying is that if I wash my hands I might not spread germs? I’m saying I might (or might not since I’m quite a clean person anyway) spread germs but we can’t avoid germs so why worry too much? I’m not going to smear poo on your sandwiches if that’s what really worries you.

As I said earlier, I saw someone pick his nose in the office but he didn’t go and wash his hands. And somebody else just sneezed, should I escort them to the toilets for a wash?

Everything in moderation, live and let live, etc etc.

Do you wash your trousers after using a urinal?

Let me repeat the bit you missed out:

If all you can come up with is “but you don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs” you really don’t have much of an argument.

I’ve always thought it rather bizarre that people wash their hands after peeing. I know exactly where my pride and joy has been (very fussy about where I stick that), and I can pee without hitting myself, whereas my hands are covered in germs from gods knows where…makes sense to wash hands before touching trouser snake. And of course in the normal course of events urine is sterile.

Faecal matter on door handles and taps however is a concern.

I was under the impression that inhabitants of many developing nations have amazingly strong immune systems thanks to poor sanitation, and as a result never get ill?

😯

You should probably alert the World Health Organisation to your findings.
Because they currently claim:

About 2 million people die every year due to diarrhoeal diseases, most of them are children less than 5 years of age. The most affected are the populations in developing countries, living in extreme conditions of poverty, normally peri-urban dwellers or rural inhabitants.

Among the main problems which are responsible for this situation are: lack of priority given to the sector, lack of financial resources, lack of sustainability of water supply and sanitation services, poor hygiene behaviours, and inadequate sanitation in public places including hospitals, health centres and schools.

— http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/hygiene/en/

But what would they know eh? 🙄

How many billions of people died of dysentery and other nasty infections before we mastered basic hygiene?

No offence Graham but people always roll out this nonsense too. It’s so far out of context as to be pointless – we’re talking about somebody not washing their hands after going to the toilet, not a return to pre-historic times or suddenly commuting to a third world country.

Do those who never get pee on their own hands not give Mr Johnson a little shake at the end of the performance? Surely that leads to the dreaded “wet penny”?

Or do you purposely shake onto your trousers and avoid your hands?

Your impression is mistaken. Diarrhoea kills over 2 million people a year, most of them in poor countries

I was being sarcastic 🙂 Trying to highlight how bleeding obvious it is that poor sanitation = poor health.

I agree that there is a need for cleanliness, but personally I don’t see the point in washing my hands every time I have a wee for various reasons.

Fair enough, I was talking specifically about poo. I genuinely do find it odd that people will spend 5 mins doing a poo and then won’t bother to spend 20 seconds washing their hands, literally walking past the sinks on the way out. It really couldn’t be easier and you’ve nothing to lose (other than 20 seconds I suppose).

As I said earlier, I saw someone pick his nose in the office but he didn’t go and wash his hands. And somebody else just sneezed, should I escort them to the toilets for a wash?

Everything in moderation, live and let live, etc etc.

I’m not fussed if people sneeze on me (other than for reasons of them being impolite), but if someone wiped poo on me I’d probably be a bit upset. For that reason, I’m probably subconciously putting poo into a different category from bogies and sneezing. I used to eat my bogies as a kid, I don’t think I ever ate my own crap. I suspect our bumholes are far away from our mouths for a reason 🙂

It’s so far out of context as to be pointless – we’re talking about somebody not washing their hands after going to the toilet, not a return to pre-historic times or suddenly commuting to a third world country.

These “third world countries”: would they be the ones where people die because of “poor hygiene behaviours”?

we’re talking about somebody not washing their hands after going to the toilet, not a return to pre-historic times

Are we? Cos I thought crikey’s bit about living in caves and trees was referring to pre-historic times.

I realise now he could also have meant Wales.

I realise now he could also have meant South Wales.

🙄

I was being sarcastic Trying to highlight how bleeding obvious it is that poor sanitation = poor health.

Sorry: it’s not all that obvious to some other members of this forum, it would seem.

I used to eat my bogies as a kid, I don’t think I ever ate my own crap. I suspect our bumholes are far away from our mouths for a reason

That’s why we have hands and fingers! Did you never have a dream where your arse was itching uncontrollably, and then wake up with a dirty finger and a nutty taste in your mouth?

No? Nobody? OK, just me then.

Sorry: it’s not all that obvious to some other members of this forum, it would seem.

They know best though, they are STW specialists in hygiene 🙂

These “third world countries”: would they be the ones where people die because of “poor hygiene behaviours”?

Sigh, yes they would. However if you were to ask someone in one of these third world countries if they were more worried about the open sewer running past their front door (tent) or me having a bit of wee on my trousers I’m pretty sure I know what the answer would be.

That’s why we have hands and fingers! Did you never have a dream where your arse was itching uncontrollably, and then wake up with a dirty finger and a nutty taste in your mouth?

No? Nobody? OK, just me then.

ha ha 🙂

To be fair, on reflection, i’m happy to lick an attractive girl’s bum. But then again, attractive girls don’t poo (as has been scientifically proven many times) 🙂

I was reading another forum recently and this guy was getting all het up about Teh Muslims at his work, saying them using water to clean was disgusting, unlike him using paper. It then degenerated into a discussion of whether rinsing (water) or wiping (paper) was Better for removing an oleaginous substance like poo. This went on for several pages until the guy outed himself as having hung around in the work bogs and staring under the doors to audit how many people were using paper and how many used water. lol!

I’m trying to eat my lunch, can we just agree to wash our hands?

Thanks

Oh, and we all taste of the very finest vanilla FACT 8)

How does that work then in a ‘normal’ UK toilet? Do you use the water from the bowl, take a cup or flask of water, what?

I use a plant sprayer, tonyd. The same 12 litre one I use to clean my bikes

Camelbak?

and Muc Off?

Supersoaker with some fenwicks?

Surely any decent toilet has bum cleaning built-in?

Sigh, yes they would. However if you were to ask someone in one of these third world countries if they were more worried about the open sewer running past their front door (tent) or me having a bit of wee on my trousers I’m pretty sure I know what the answer would be.

I see you’re still peddling the same argument. Let’s try again:

If all you can come up with is “but you don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs” you really don’t have much of an argument.

Simple version: it’s difficult to divert an open sewer. It’s easy to wash your hands.

Awesome device. Why are there two settings to clean breasts?

I’m not being facetious

Faeces-ist!

my willy is clean, i mean i would expect a girl to put it in her mouth. for those who think you should wash your hands every time you touch your willy, i suggest you should probably wash your willy more often.

I see you’re still peddling the same argument

I thought that was an entirely different argument to “I don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs”.

Simple version: it’s difficult to divert an open sewer. It’s easy to wash your hands

Not if you don’t have clean water and live next to an open sewer.

What’s your point exactly, or are you just arguing for arguments sake? Cutting and pasting the same sentence isn’t much of an argument in itself, and it’s certainly not going to persuade me to wash my hands next time I have a wee. I might also point out that the sentence you keep quoting back to me (“I don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs”) is your original interpretation of my posts – there are several reasons I don’t wash my hands.

If you choose to interpret everything I say as “I don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs” then one of us lacks the imagination and intellect to present a decent argument, whichever of us it is there’s not much point continuing.

I thought that was an entirely different argument to “I don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs”.

If you’d really thought about it, you’d see that it’s precisely the same argument.

Not if you don’t have clean water and live next to an open sewer.

I have clean water and don’t live next to an open sewer. I also wash my hands. Because it’s quick and easy, and may be useful in preventing the unnecessary spread of germs.

there are several reasons I don’t wash my hands.

Other than being lazy and unhygienic? What are those reasons?

If you’d really thought about it, you’d see that it’s precisely the same argument

I’d suggest that perhaps you are reading too much into things here and seeing exactly what you want to see. ie one argument consisting of the phrase “I don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs” which you yourself came out with.

Other than being lazy and unhygienic? What are those reasons?

Since you haven’t bothered to read any of my posts I’ll not go through them all, however this:

If I did I suspect I’d probably have no skin left on my hands

was the very next sentence in my first post, right after where you presumably read “I don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs”

Assuming I’m lazy and unhygienic because I don’t conform with your ideals doesn’t make it so, and it certainly doesn’t help the rest of your argument by making that statement.

I’d suggest that perhaps you are reading too much into things here and seeing exactly what you want to see. ie one argument consisting of the phrase “I don’t do inconvenient and time-consuming things to prevent spreading germs” which you yourself came out with.

Yes, that was in response to you asking why I don’t put on new clothes after I’d been to the toilet. See Reductio Ad Absurdum

If I did I suspect I’d probably have no skin left on my hands

In my part of England, the taps dispense water rather than hydrochloric acid.

Assuming I’m lazy and unhygienic because I don’t conform with your ideals doesn’t make it so,

Washing hands is quick, easy, and helps to prevent the spread of germs. If the best you can come up with is “tap water dissolves my skin” it suggests that you have no justification other than that you can’t be bothered.

Not washing hands is quicker and easier than washing them. If I’m not worried about the odd germ why would I bother?

Does it offend you that much that I don’t mind the odd germ? It doesn’t offend me in the slightest that you seem to abhor them.