Got a TALAS that I run almost exclusively at 120 on a 456. Seems about the perfect length to me.

Great bike,

APF

Why not look at what your riding is, choose apprpriate farme & change forks if nec later?

wait for the piglet ?

120 on a 456 is fine. I run/ran my Pikes on that most of the time.

Ragley is slacker - that's the main difference. Too slow steering for my liking.

I wound my forkd down to 85mm once, dunno why. Another vote for the piglet.

I've only got 100mm forks at mo, so interested too.
PS anyone seen a 100/120mm fork with a 1.5 steerer?

i have 130mm on my blue pig but they are the same a to c as the 140mm floats i had on it first so that prob doesnt help as it feels the same , apart from the new forks are much stiffer

Thanks for the advice. Will take a look at the Piglet but definitely leaning towards the 456 as a good all round frame. Thinking 20in as I'm 6'3 - assuming the 18in would be too small?

120's on my 18" 456. I like it a lot.

right, here's what to do:

buy a standard inbred (non 456), if you can still get them in your size (20").

it's got the same geometry as the 456 (more or less), but a little bit lighter.

this is your last chance to buy a standard skinny inbred, when they're gone, they're gone.

ride it, but take care of it, and in a years time sell it for £50 profit, and buy a piglet.

(or keep it, the standard skinny inbred is a lovely bike, and not what you'd call 'fragile' - there's good reason* to argue that the standard inbred will cope very well with 120mm forks)

(*people have been doing it without problems for years, it's only the new CEN regs that mean on-one have to advise the 100mm limit)