meanwhile, it turns out the event that started the riots last summer did in fact start with a scrote in possession of a gun and the police stopping the car he was in on the basis of intelligence they had received.
So hundreds of millions in damaged property, several people dead, many more seriously assaulted, and the reputation of the man that some of the “protesters” turns out to be as dodgy as some claimed at the time.
Yes Dale Cregan. Farmer John, these officers were nothing to do with what happened in London or the actions of others in another Force acting on their particular information.
Just had a quick google, if a guy is known to carry guns and grenades around a city the size of Manchester why are they need sending in men or women with the ability to disable him instantly.
I was about 1/2 mile away from there doing a clinic at a GP’s in Mottram. I parked my car on Ashworth Lane about 9. I am due to be in Hattersley Clinic this afternoon!! Lets see how that pans out.
I did have a patient come in about 11.30 who lives on the estate saying that there had been a shooting.. hopefully they will dispose of him!
Just checked and they were, two women officers, call me old fashioned but women shouldn’t be on the front line in situations like this.
I don’t find it any worse that two female officers were killed than if two men had been killed. It’s shit that any police officers die in the line of duty (and anyone else who is killed doing a job). It’s certainly an aspect of their career but horrible nevertheless.
I had this conversation once with a sub mariner. He said he could close a hatch to a flooding compartment with his mate the other side if he had to. Not so sure he could do it if there was a woman the other side. Sometimes, the question isn’t about the performance of women in such situations but how it might impact the situation as a whole.
Don’t know if I agree with him or not but it’s a point of view I’d not considered before.
I’m guessing that these officers didn’t realise he was in this empty building but were maybe checking any possible hide outs or simply patrolling the area.
That fact he walked in to a police station and gave himself up suggests it wasn’t part of an organised operation to arrest him.
Incredibly sad and I hope he gets life with no chance of freedom.
Good point Onza, and the male reaction would be one of a million lifetimes of evolution telling him how to react if he saw a female in danger.
That’s one theroy. Another would be that he has been conditioned by society into believing that women are inferior and need to be protected by the men. These things are never as clear cut as first impressions suggest.
This thread was started in respect to 1 officer who has lost her life and another who is seriously injured, can we keep the thread to that please.
I apologise if my comments were seen as ‘disrespectful’, because they weren’t intended to be. However, i find it strange that comments that could be seen as disrespectful to the family of a man killed by police are allowed to stand, yet any challenge to that is censored. If a moderator would like to email me regarding this, I would appreciate it.